Post by mngopher35 on Mar 28, 2022 11:25:35 GMT -6
Given the context of wanting to see this useless franchise win a championship, my "take" is perfectly aligned with that goal. I'm done with moral victories and following individual players. I've had my fill of it, and the only thing left is a championship. Kirk Cousins might throw for 5000 yards and 40 TD's this year and it's not going to matter if he's not still playing in February, which he won't be. So why are we wasting our time? Cool, remember that time Kirk Cousins won MVP at 9-8?
Now we have to wait 2 years before we can get on with what needed to be done to put us on a championship path because some moron gave Cousins back his no trade clause. I was perfectly fine with extending him, thinking it would buy us more time to shop him around for the best deal, until I heard about the no trade clause and nearly had an aneurysm. KAM's first firable offense.
And why not? And try to explain it like you don't have stockholm syndrome this time.
There's nothing wrong with being 3-14 if it gets you on the right track, like the Bengals. The Vikings have been on this path of mediocrity for a very long time, it hasn't worked out, and it's getting old. We're constantly applying just enough duct tape to remain afloat ... in our biannual run at the 7th seed. Time to try something new, like burning it all down. When's the last time the Vikings tried that? Never! We've never burnt it all down, and we have ZERO championships. Smells like a clue to me.
I would have traded Cousins for whatever I could get for him. Wentz got what, two 3rd round picks? So there's the floor. Take it! Because now you're not going to get anything for him when he hits free agency in 2 years. What's better, two 3rd round picks or jack squat? With the added bonus of not being 2 years behind.
Then you prepare for 2024 when Rodgers is most likely gone and the Packers begin their rebuild. You're now 2 years ahead of your rival. Instead, we're just applying more duct tape with Cousins, and we're not going to win a championship. So again, what's the point? In 2024, we're going to be right where we would have been right now, so why not do right now, RIGHT NOW?! We bring in an entirely new regime, with a rookie GM/HC, just to run everything back for 2 years? What the actual hell?
I get rid of everyone else too. Thielen, Smith, Kendricks, Pierce, Barr, PP, anyone over 30 is gone, and Bradbury. Gut it like a fish. I probably keep Hunter because he's still young enough. And I try to trade Cook. Accumulate as many picks and as much cap space as I can. I find a decent stop gap QB, like a Mariota, or Minshew who can hold down the fort for a couple of seasons, because I wouldn't draft any of the QB's coming out this year. And I bring back Kyle friggin Slooter over Timmy Mannion. Seriously what the hell? 2nd firable offense.
That would give us time to restock the cupboards and let O'Connell establish his program, with players he chooses. What sense does it make to force him to work with all the previous regimes crap, AND then make him start over in 2 years? That's so bafflingly stupid I still have a headache. But maybe I don't even hire Kevin if he tells me he thinks he can win with Kirk. Game over! Thanks for coming in.
If the plan was to win a Super Bowl in these next 2 years, which it clearly seems to be, then it makes ZERO sense to hire KOC over Harbaugh to begin with. A rookie HC over a proven winner? What the hell is this franchise doing? It's like it's just throwing sh*t at the wall and hoping something sticks, which Kwesi all but admitted to when he said this was a "competitive rebuild". What kind of oxymoronic crap is that? This 2 year plan reeks of a desperate hail mary, from a desperate ownership that only cares about squeezing as much money as it can from it's low expectation fan base, and it's not going to end well because your QB is still Kirk friggin Cousins.
Cousins is 3-0 against this useless franchise when it comes to contract negotiations, so let that sink in. Those are the same people running this franchise while we all sit here wondering why the trophy case is still empty. If I couldn't find a trade partner for him, I'd eat the $45m and send a message by making him ride the bench as a 3rd string inactive every week. We could afford it because it'd be the first year of a rebuild. I wouldn't even send him a playbook.
Stockholm syndrome? C'mon....
It's easy, I had the same questions when they extended him the first time as I had when they did it again. The difference then? We had a stronger QB class in the draft. Even signing Kirk initially had most of those questions- hypothetically we could have kept Keenum, passed on Mike Hughes, and drafted Lamar Jackson.
Why am I OK with it this time? It was only for an additional year, I'm not enamored with any QB in this draft except maybe Willis, who'd need someone in front of him a year or two anyway. The options outside of that weren't that palatable to me because, unlike you, I'm NOT fine with 3-14, not when it doesn't IMO need to happen to move forward. Plus, aren't you the least bit curious as to what difference a creative young offensive mind might have on this group, including Kirk?
It might be a generational thing, I'm not sure, but while I enjoy fantasy sports games (duh, I created my own), I don't want my TEAM to play with their roster likes it's a fantasy league.
It is possible to be realistic and call out your favorite teams move while still supporting them. It's such a simple concept but these "why even follow the team then" etc. questions are so ridiculous. Do people really not understand this? Why is it on this forum so much anytime someone disagrees with the approach currently taken?
The rams just won a SB by trading a bunch of their picks. The Bengals were in the SB after a really bad year leading to Burrow. Multiple QB's were on the move this offseason by various teams. I don't know about the generational gap but it isn't just fantasy teams that play with their roster making big moves or have down years in order to rebuild. It's actual NFL teams that "play with their roster" if they want to keep improving and win.