Post by Purple Pain on Jun 29, 2021 9:02:04 GMT -6
Purple Insider is doing a "What Coulda Been Week:
Reminds me of Danchat's piece [OC] Analyzing Vikings QBs and the Last Decade of Offseasons.
If you're new(er) here and haven't seen that piece, give it a look right now!
Some of Purple Insider's edition:
purpleinsider.substack.com/p/what-coulda-been-week-quarterback
And for the OGs:
1) What if Daunte Culpepper didn’t suffer a knee injury?
2) What if the Vikings hadn’t traded Fran Tarkenton?
3) What if the Vikings found a franchise QB in the 90s?
4) What if Tommy Kramer was healthy in 1987?
Over the next five days, we will be looking through the history of a franchise that has always had something in the way. We’ll break down the what-ifs and the burning questions throughout Minnesota Vikings’ history and try to imagine how things might have played out differently. For our first edition, ranking the quarterback What Coulda Beens…
Reminds me of Danchat's piece [OC] Analyzing Vikings QBs and the Last Decade of Offseasons.
If you're new(er) here and haven't seen that piece, give it a look right now!
Some of Purple Insider's edition:
5) What if Brett Favre didn’t throw an interception against the Saints?
Favre is the only player who lands on our list because of a single play but it’s one of the defining plays in the franchise’s history.
What makes this one fascinating is that you can spend days breaking down his interception on the final drive of the NFC Championship against the New Orleans Saints from a micro or macro perspective. In the micro, you can ask, what if the Vikings hadn’t committed a 12-men in the huddle penalty on the previous play? Would Ryan Longwell have hit a field goal from 56 to send the Vikings to the Super Bowl? If Favre checked down to Bernard Berrian or taken off running, would they have picked up enough to set up an easy kick for Longwell?
And then there’s the big picture. Would the Vikings have beaten the Indianapolis Colts in the Super Bowl? Or would Favre have been too beaten up at that point to get them over the hump? Had Favre gone to the Super Bowl, would he have retired rather than coming back in 2010?
There’s also the part about the perception of Favre. Even with a Super Bowl ring, Favre’s career was defined in many ways by the big games that ended on his mistakes. The 2009 playoffs offered an opportunity for redemption for those errors.
6) What if Teddy Bridgewater never got hurt?
Very few preseason games end up being memorable but Teddy Bridgewater’s performance against the San Diego Chargers in 2016 will stick in Vikings fans’ heads as a lasting image of what Bridgewater could have become. In the lead up to the 2016 season, Bridgewater flashed more pop on his fastball, which had been a criticism of his first two seasons, and a confidence that suggested the team was becoming his to lead.
When he suffered a career-threatening knee injury, the Vikings missed out not only on an opportunity to see what Bridgewater would have become but also on two years of his rookie contract. How strong the team might have been in 2017 with additional cap space to spend and what he might have done under circumstances that turned Case Keenum into a top 10 quarterback are two of the many lingering questions from Bridgewater’s injury.
Bridgewater then added an additional What Coulda Been to the conversation when he returned from the injury in 2017 and then the Vikings elected to go in a different direction. His performances with New Orleans and Carolina haven’t been proof that he could have won with the Vikings over the last three years or that he couldn’t have been successful with another chance in purple.
7) What if Sam Bradford never got hurt?
In 2016, Sam Bradford played admirably for the Vikings after being acquired just days before the start of the season but following a full training camp in 2017 it appeared he was going to take off and become the QB that he was expected to be. In Week 1 against the New Orleans Saints, Bradford went 27-for-32 with 346 yards and three touchdowns. PFF graded his performance against the Saints a 92.7 out of 100, which was the highest single game score of his career.
The difference in talent between Keenum and Bradford was not insignificant, leaving us to wonder how the Vikings would have finished a 2017 season in which they had the No. 1 defense and one of the best offensive supporting casts in the NFL.
What type of numbers could Bradford have put up over that full season? Would he have gotten them one extra win and home field advantage throughout the playoffs? Would the Vikings have signed Bradford to a long-term contract had he been healthy in 2017?
A winning season from Bradford would have changed the public perception surrounding him as a former top pick. He was often the butt of jokes about his career record versus his career earnings but a trip to the NFC Championship or beyond would have left a lasting impression.
8) What if the Vikings made a different decision in 2018?
The book isn’t yet written on Kirk Cousins in Minnesota but the Vikings’ choice to sign him to the richest contract in NFL history (at the time) is one that will be looked at as a pivot point in the Mike Zimmer era.
The Vikings had three starting-caliber quarterbacks on the roster in 2017 and all three of them were free agents following the season. They were concerned that Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Bradford’s past injuries were too risky and they felt Keenum’s 2017 success was more of a pop-up season than a sustainable model, so they elected to lure the former Washington quarterback rather than take other avenues, some of which included a possible trade for Alex Smith or pairing Keenum or Bridgewater with a QB in the draft.
They went with Cousins because the expectations for 2018 were set at “Super Bowl or Bust,” even if the team tried to downplay that narrative. But they brought back nearly the entire 2017 roster with hopes of getting to the next level. Three years later, the Vikings have only one playoff appearance and there are questions about what happens next if they don’t make a deep run this year.
It’s plausible that no matter which direction the Vikings would have taken that they wouldn’t have ended up repeating the 2017 success. However, Lamar Jackson was on the board when they picked Mike Hughes with the 30th pick in the draft. So you can’t count him as a part of Vikings what coulda been lore.
9) What if the Vikings traded up for Justin Fields or picked Mac Jones?
After video surfaced of the Vikings trying to trade up in the draft — reportedly to take Justin Fields — his career will be connected to the Vikings for the foreseeable future, especially since he landed in Minnesota’s division. Same goes for Alabama star Mac Jones. The Vikings chose to trade down in the draft rather than selecting Jones and then Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots took Jones with the next pick, again tying him to the Vikings and whatever happens next with Kirk Cousins.
Maybe these two quarterbacks will never become what-coulda-beens — but based on our list, it feels inevitable that they will.
Favre is the only player who lands on our list because of a single play but it’s one of the defining plays in the franchise’s history.
What makes this one fascinating is that you can spend days breaking down his interception on the final drive of the NFC Championship against the New Orleans Saints from a micro or macro perspective. In the micro, you can ask, what if the Vikings hadn’t committed a 12-men in the huddle penalty on the previous play? Would Ryan Longwell have hit a field goal from 56 to send the Vikings to the Super Bowl? If Favre checked down to Bernard Berrian or taken off running, would they have picked up enough to set up an easy kick for Longwell?
And then there’s the big picture. Would the Vikings have beaten the Indianapolis Colts in the Super Bowl? Or would Favre have been too beaten up at that point to get them over the hump? Had Favre gone to the Super Bowl, would he have retired rather than coming back in 2010?
There’s also the part about the perception of Favre. Even with a Super Bowl ring, Favre’s career was defined in many ways by the big games that ended on his mistakes. The 2009 playoffs offered an opportunity for redemption for those errors.
6) What if Teddy Bridgewater never got hurt?
Very few preseason games end up being memorable but Teddy Bridgewater’s performance against the San Diego Chargers in 2016 will stick in Vikings fans’ heads as a lasting image of what Bridgewater could have become. In the lead up to the 2016 season, Bridgewater flashed more pop on his fastball, which had been a criticism of his first two seasons, and a confidence that suggested the team was becoming his to lead.
When he suffered a career-threatening knee injury, the Vikings missed out not only on an opportunity to see what Bridgewater would have become but also on two years of his rookie contract. How strong the team might have been in 2017 with additional cap space to spend and what he might have done under circumstances that turned Case Keenum into a top 10 quarterback are two of the many lingering questions from Bridgewater’s injury.
Bridgewater then added an additional What Coulda Been to the conversation when he returned from the injury in 2017 and then the Vikings elected to go in a different direction. His performances with New Orleans and Carolina haven’t been proof that he could have won with the Vikings over the last three years or that he couldn’t have been successful with another chance in purple.
7) What if Sam Bradford never got hurt?
In 2016, Sam Bradford played admirably for the Vikings after being acquired just days before the start of the season but following a full training camp in 2017 it appeared he was going to take off and become the QB that he was expected to be. In Week 1 against the New Orleans Saints, Bradford went 27-for-32 with 346 yards and three touchdowns. PFF graded his performance against the Saints a 92.7 out of 100, which was the highest single game score of his career.
The difference in talent between Keenum and Bradford was not insignificant, leaving us to wonder how the Vikings would have finished a 2017 season in which they had the No. 1 defense and one of the best offensive supporting casts in the NFL.
What type of numbers could Bradford have put up over that full season? Would he have gotten them one extra win and home field advantage throughout the playoffs? Would the Vikings have signed Bradford to a long-term contract had he been healthy in 2017?
A winning season from Bradford would have changed the public perception surrounding him as a former top pick. He was often the butt of jokes about his career record versus his career earnings but a trip to the NFC Championship or beyond would have left a lasting impression.
8) What if the Vikings made a different decision in 2018?
The book isn’t yet written on Kirk Cousins in Minnesota but the Vikings’ choice to sign him to the richest contract in NFL history (at the time) is one that will be looked at as a pivot point in the Mike Zimmer era.
The Vikings had three starting-caliber quarterbacks on the roster in 2017 and all three of them were free agents following the season. They were concerned that Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Bradford’s past injuries were too risky and they felt Keenum’s 2017 success was more of a pop-up season than a sustainable model, so they elected to lure the former Washington quarterback rather than take other avenues, some of which included a possible trade for Alex Smith or pairing Keenum or Bridgewater with a QB in the draft.
They went with Cousins because the expectations for 2018 were set at “Super Bowl or Bust,” even if the team tried to downplay that narrative. But they brought back nearly the entire 2017 roster with hopes of getting to the next level. Three years later, the Vikings have only one playoff appearance and there are questions about what happens next if they don’t make a deep run this year.
It’s plausible that no matter which direction the Vikings would have taken that they wouldn’t have ended up repeating the 2017 success. However, Lamar Jackson was on the board when they picked Mike Hughes with the 30th pick in the draft. So you can’t count him as a part of Vikings what coulda been lore.
9) What if the Vikings traded up for Justin Fields or picked Mac Jones?
After video surfaced of the Vikings trying to trade up in the draft — reportedly to take Justin Fields — his career will be connected to the Vikings for the foreseeable future, especially since he landed in Minnesota’s division. Same goes for Alabama star Mac Jones. The Vikings chose to trade down in the draft rather than selecting Jones and then Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots took Jones with the next pick, again tying him to the Vikings and whatever happens next with Kirk Cousins.
Maybe these two quarterbacks will never become what-coulda-beens — but based on our list, it feels inevitable that they will.
purpleinsider.substack.com/p/what-coulda-been-week-quarterback
And for the OGs:
1) What if Daunte Culpepper didn’t suffer a knee injury?
2) What if the Vikings hadn’t traded Fran Tarkenton?
3) What if the Vikings found a franchise QB in the 90s?
4) What if Tommy Kramer was healthy in 1987?