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Surprise Breakout Players Jun 23, 2021 14:12:07 GMT -6

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Jun 23, 2021 13:20:52 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

Jun 23, 2021 11:40:56 GMT -6 Drank said:

WI you my guy you know that, but you on some other if you happy with Bradbury. Bradbury sucks bro at least to this point. Whatever the ratio his lost rate is to high.

How the hell can you defend that scrubs play is beyond me. He is getting dusted far to often in pass pro.

Bustbury right know is a easy one. LOL , he been nearly the worse center in the entire NFL. A true disappointment already 26 and picked 18th in the draft. A center picked rd 1 the highest on the OL, a higher pick then almost everyone on the team currently we drafted except Barr.

Give me a break he eff n blows my guy a true stinker! You know it is nothing but love though my dude.

Bradbury embarrassed me thought he was doing okay so I asked Bos Man to watch him. Because he was shocked I said he was doing okay and turning a corner, he went on to get bulldogged the rest of the year true story LOL! OK still is not enough neither because a center in RD 1 anything but elite is a terrible value.

He needs to improve as a pass blocker for sure. I'm about to send you an article you should read with an open mind.

If I wasn't so lazy I could make a film with Bradbury getting chopped down like a afro at the barber shop. The film could be just as long or longer. So those are half truths by sugarcoating people. We need improvement from him big time.

Everyone has bad plays, but his are to frequently more than the average center.

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Jun 23, 2021 14:04:21 GMT -6 Drank said:

Jun 23, 2021 13:20:52 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

He needs to improve as a pass blocker for sure. I'm about to send you an article you should read with an open mind.

I saw it, but I don't need it I see every game with my own eyes. All them writers do is sugarcoat things. Bradbury has to be better it is simple as that. All that is is a opinion a opinion from people who work for the Vikings. He decent on run blocks, but in the moment of truth he gets blown back on pass blocking. They employed to be be nice. It's my duty to be honest good and bad we need more from Bradbury a lot more.

He doesn't work for the vikings...

First you said he gives up pressure on every play. Then you said that even though he wins way more than he loses, that he sucks. But if he's a big plus on the run game and in the pass game he can improve both through technique and better players around him, maybe he's still worth having around.

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Jun 23, 2021 14:12:07 GMT -6 Drank said:

Jun 23, 2021 13:20:52 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

He needs to improve as a pass blocker for sure. I'm about to send you an article you should read with an open mind.

If I wasn't so lazy I could make a film with Bradbury getting chopped down like a afro at the barber shop. The film could be just as long or longer. So those are half truths by sugarcoating people. We need improvement from him big time.

Everyone has bad plays, but his are to frequently more than the average center.

He has one pressure per game on average more than the elite centers. Not great, but not devastating. Especially if our guards suck less!

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This simply can't keep happening dude is 300 anchor and stopped getting punked like you a kid. This the OGs fault though huh! Getting beat is one thing beat like a step child is another bulldozed too (roflmao)

@aussie where you at my guy, this the stuff we was telling oh boy last night. Y'all feeling me and catching my drift now.

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Jun 23, 2021 14:19:32 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

Jun 23, 2021 14:04:21 GMT -6 Drank said:

I saw it, but I don't need it I see every game with my own eyes. All them writers do is sugarcoat things. Bradbury has to be better it is simple as that. All that is is a opinion a opinion from people who work for the Vikings. He decent on run blocks, but in the moment of truth he gets blown back on pass blocking. They employed to be be nice. It's my duty to be honest good and bad we need more from Bradbury a lot more.

He doesn't work for the vikings...

First you said he gives up pressure on every play. Then you said that even though he wins way more than he loses, that he sucks. But if he's a big plus on the run game and in the pass game he can improve both through technique and better players around him, maybe he's still worth having around.

He sucks right now bottom line player. Nobody gets beat every play and he has help a lot. One a game is a lot over a season it's 16. They said average center gives up 16 pressures he gave up 29 come on bro🤷🏾‍♂️

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Jun 23, 2021 14:20:21 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

Jun 23, 2021 14:12:07 GMT -6 Drank said:

If I wasn't so lazy I could make a film with Bradbury getting chopped down like a afro at the barber shop. The film could be just as long or longer. So those are half truths by sugarcoating people. We need improvement from him big time.

Everyone has bad plays, but his are to frequently more than the average center.

He has one pressure per game on average more than the elite centers. Not great, but not devastating. Especially if our guards suck less!

You mean to tell me you going to sit here and defend Bradbury. Stop making excuses for bad play.

He gave up 29 pressures tied for 4th worse for centers the average center gave up 16. So he almost double on pressures on average centers. It is called trash. This is about pass block I said he cool on run blocking. Unfortunately you have to be able to pass block as well. You better than that WI come on pimpin.

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Jun 23, 2021 14:19:32 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

First you said he gives up pressure on every play

You know dang well what I meant. You obviously know he has help a lot and obviously nobody get's beat every play. It is called sarcasm, but this is not sarcasm he get's beat a lot when he has to pass block on his own I rest my case.

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Surprise Breakout Players Jun 23, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -6

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Jun 23, 2021 14:23:59 GMT -6 Drank said:

This simply can't keep happening dude is 300 anchor and stopped getting punked like you a kid. This the OGs fault though huh! Getting beat is one thing beat like a step child is another bulldozed too (roflmao)

@aussie where you at my guy, this the stuff we was telling oh boy last night. Y'all feeling me and catching my drift now.

Well, there is no doubt Bradbury is manhandled and badly beaten there. It is not "the OG's fault" in the sense that he had to help one of them; he's just asked to take a 1-1 assignment (and fails).

But it does stand out that he received NO HELP from the OGs. I think it is Samia at RG and he does give a little halfhearted chip to pretend he is helping O'Neill before he stands around pointlessly. But Dozier at LG does nothing on that play, other than watch other people block (or not block, in Bradbury's case). Wasn't it obvious to him that Bradbury needed help?

I'm not saying this means Bradbury is going to be great, because he should be able to hold his own, and he can't! But if there were competent OGs noticing when he needs help and providing it, his issues wouldn't be so harmful to the team.

But...he was the 18th pick in the draft, he sure as hell should not be a "player we can cover up". He's supposed to hold his own ALL THE TIME and dominate sometimes. I hate to be a broken record, but seeing what Dennison has done to "develop" Bradbury, I don't think we should be planning on Darrisaw or Davis quickly adapting and excelling in the NFL.

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Jun 23, 2021 15:17:11 GMT -6 Drank said:

Jun 23, 2021 14:19:32 GMT -6 wivikesfan said:

First you said he gives up pressure on every play

You know dang well what I meant. You obviously know he has help a lot and obviously nobody get's beat every play. It is called sarcasm, but this is not sarcasm he get's beat a lot when he has to pass block on his own I rest my case.

I hear you. At the end of the day, we drafted him, and there are parts of his game that are really good. If we can minimize the bad and maximize the good, we might have something!

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Jun 23, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -6 Jor-El said:

Jun 23, 2021 14:23:59 GMT -6 Drank said:

This simply can't keep happening dude is 300 anchor and stopped getting punked like you a kid. This the OGs fault though huh! Getting beat is one thing beat like a step child is another bulldozed too (roflmao)

@aussie where you at my guy, this the stuff we was telling oh boy last night. Y'all feeling me and catching my drift now.

Well, there is no doubt Bradbury is manhandled and badly beaten there. It is not "the OG's fault" in the sense that he had to help one of them; he's just asked to take a 1-1 assignment (and fails).

But it does stand out that he received NO HELP from the OGs. I think it is Samia at RG and he does give a little halfhearted chip to pretend he is helping O'Neill before he stands around pointlessly. But Dozier at LG does nothing on that play, other than watch other people block (or not block, in Bradbury's case). Wasn't it obvious to him that Bradbury needed help?

I'm not saying this means Bradbury is going to be great, because he should be able to hold his own, and he can't! But if there were competent OGs noticing when he needs help and providing it, his issues wouldn't be so harmful to the team.

But...he was the 18th pick in the draft, he sure as hell should not be a "player we can cover up". He's supposed to hold his own ALL THE TIME and dominate sometimes. I hate to be a broken record, but seeing what Dennison has done to "develop" Bradbury, I don't think we should be planning on Darrisaw or Davis quickly adapting and excelling in the NFL.

True and yes the OGs could help but it's like this.. If a guy said he beat you up in school, but he did it with help jumping you he didn't kick your butt. He need a squad of people to save his life. One on one he a pus. This kind of like that. You elaborated on it already, but a 18th pick and a guy that needs help means he is not very good. Cool he can double team a guy but in trouble if caught alone. To make this worse this is Jeffrey Simmons a guy close to his size 6'4 305 no excuse to let him destroy you like that IMO. It's safe to say picking a center who needs help so much was a waste of pick, we could have found that later in the draft.

Brian O'Neill turned out though so it is still on the individual. These guys are pros. They already know how to play the position all a coach does is guide you, but it's up to you more than anyone else if you want to turn out. Darrisaw and Davis are their own person. It is up to them and their mind set more than the coach to turn out or bust.

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Jun 23, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -6 Jor-El said:

Jun 23, 2021 14:23:59 GMT -6 Drank said:

This simply can't keep happening dude is 300 anchor and stopped getting punked like you a kid. This the OGs fault though huh! Getting beat is one thing beat like a step child is another bulldozed too (roflmao)

@aussie where you at my guy, this the stuff we was telling oh boy last night. Y'all feeling me and catching my drift now.

Well, there is no doubt Bradbury is manhandled and badly beaten there. It is not "the OG's fault" in the sense that he had to help one of them; he's just asked to take a 1-1 assignment (and fails).

But it does stand out that he received NO HELP from the OGs. I think it is Samia at RG and he does give a little halfhearted chip to pretend he is helping O'Neill before he stands around pointlessly. But Dozier at LG does nothing on that play, other than watch other people block (or not block, in Bradbury's case). Wasn't it obvious to him that Bradbury needed help?

I'm not saying this means Bradbury is going to be great, because he should be able to hold his own, and he can't! But if there were competent OGs noticing when he needs help and providing it, his issues wouldn't be so harmful to the team.

But...he was the 18th pick in the draft, he sure as hell should not be a "player we can cover up". He's supposed to hold his own ALL THE TIME and dominate sometimes. I hate to be a broken record, but seeing what Dennison has done to "develop" Bradbury, I don't think we should be planning on Darrisaw or Davis quickly adapting and excelling in the NFL.

Ideally the center wouldn't need help. Agreed. But if that limits the pressures he gives up and we get the upside of his athleticism, maybe we can get the best of both worlds. This will be the first time where we shouldn't have dumpster fires surrounding him.

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Jun 23, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -6 Jor-El said:

But it does stand out that he received NO HELP from the OGs. I think it is Samia at RG and he does give a little halfhearted chip to pretend he is helping O'Neill before he stands around pointlessly. But Dozier at LG does nothing on that play, other than watch other people block (or not block, in Bradbury's case). Wasn't it obvious to him that Bradbury needed help?

Surprisingly I not blaming Samia on this one. In the video O'Neill was getting beat and Samia helped him recover. Reiff had his guy blocked so Blowzier IMO was the one who needed to help. Once Samia helped O'Neill it was to late to help Bradbury.

I blame Bustbury for getting blasted, but also a even worse player Blowzier for not helping. Even though man I expect more from Bradbury then that regardless of help or not.

From the way Simmons was coming it was going to be hard even for Blowzier to help with that angle. Simmons would have just thrown Bustbury into Dozier causing both to fall look closely (roflmao)

Bradbury just got railroad to quickly. Bottom line Bradbury got to hold his own better on that play.

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Jun 23, 2021 17:09:15 GMT -6 Drank said:

Jun 23, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -6 Jor-El said:

But it does stand out that he received NO HELP from the OGs. I think it is Samia at RG and he does give a little halfhearted chip to pretend he is helping O'Neill before he stands around pointlessly. But Dozier at LG does nothing on that play, other than watch other people block (or not block, in Bradbury's case). Wasn't it obvious to him that Bradbury needed help?

Surprisingly I not blaming Samia on this one. In the video O'Neill was getting beat and Samia helped him recover. Reiff had his guy blocked so Blowzier IMO was the one who needed to help. Once Samia helped O'Neill it was to late to help Bradbury.

I blame Bustbury for getting blasted, but also a even worse player Blowzier for not helping. Even though man I expect more from Bradbury then that regardless of help or not.

From the way Simmons was coming it was going to be hard even for Blowzier to help with that angle. Simmons would have just thrown Bustbury into Dozier causing both to fall look closely (roflmao)

Bradbury just got railroad to quickly. Bottom line Bradbury got to hold his own better on that play.

All perfectly true - Samia was doing OK but Dozier was a waste - made no effort or didn't know what to do. TBH I still have a bit of hope that Samia might get his crap together - I have no illusions Dozier will ever improve.

But again, it's just so sad that Bradbury looks just as bad as Dozier.

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Jun 23, 2021 17:30:27 GMT -6 Jor-El said:

Jun 23, 2021 17:09:15 GMT -6 Drank said:

Surprisingly I not blaming Samia on this one. In the video O'Neill was getting beat and Samia helped him recover. Reiff had his guy blocked so Blowzier IMO was the one who needed to help. Once Samia helped O'Neill it was to late to help Bradbury.

I blame Bustbury for getting blasted, but also a even worse player Blowzier for not helping. Even though man I expect more from Bradbury then that regardless of help or not.

From the way Simmons was coming it was going to be hard even for Blowzier to help with that angle. Simmons would have just thrown Bustbury into Dozier causing both to fall look closely (roflmao)

Bradbury just got railroad to quickly. Bottom line Bradbury got to hold his own better on that play.

All perfectly true - Samia was doing OK but Dozier was a waste - made no effort or didn't know what to do. TBH I still have a bit of hope that Samia might get his crap together - I have no illusions Dozier will ever improve.

But again, it's just so sad that Bradbury looks just as bad as Dozier.

The two stooges, Yep on that one Samia did his job. That halted all Bradbury excuse makers. This video funny with the music too Nick clowned on this one. Even Bradbury mother can't defend him on this one LOL! Pure garbage on that one, and Dozier is a lost cause and 30 it's over for him. This illustrates this whole debate and what I was trying to say about Bradbury do better Bustbury SMH *lol*

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