Post by Uncle on Mar 29, 2021 10:33:21 GMT -6
There's an argument in there somewhere to be had that counters the "he failed w/ the Jets, but who wouldn't" card...and that counter is that "cream rises to the top", regardless of the situation, meaning that if a player is good, they will rise to the occasion regardless of how poor the team around them is.
Take Gardner Minshew for example - drafted by the Jags (another overall horrible team) in the 6th in 2019 and has played in 23 games, starting 20 - a decent sample size. He has a compl % of 62.9%, 5,500+ yds (239 yds per game using 23 total games), 37 TD's to just 11 INT's and those numbers actually improved in 2020 compared to 2019 - he went from 60.6% in 2019 to 66.1% in 2020, meaning he's shown improvement/development even though his QB record went down as the Jags just stunk it up in 2020 from a W/L standpoint.
Compare that with Darnold who has has a 59.8 compl % so far, 8,097 yds in 38 games (213 yds per game), 45 TD's and a whopping 39 INT's...and he hasn't shown any improvement in his 3 seasons w/ the Jets - showing a slight improvement in 2019 from his rookie 2018, but then regressing horribly in 2020.
One of the knocks on him coming out was that he came out too soon (wasn't ready), but after 3 seasons in the NFL and plenty of opportunities to prove he's a decent NFL starting QB, he has shown very little, or no improvement/development.
While there have been some success stories involving QB's developing after a change of scenery from their initial team (Drew Brees being arguably the best example, although he still was halfway decent for the Chargers and had better #'s than Darnold did), I'm not willing to pay $4.7m in 2021 cap dollars and a 2021 mid-Rd pick to find out as those success stories are too few and far between.
Take Gardner Minshew for example - drafted by the Jags (another overall horrible team) in the 6th in 2019 and has played in 23 games, starting 20 - a decent sample size. He has a compl % of 62.9%, 5,500+ yds (239 yds per game using 23 total games), 37 TD's to just 11 INT's and those numbers actually improved in 2020 compared to 2019 - he went from 60.6% in 2019 to 66.1% in 2020, meaning he's shown improvement/development even though his QB record went down as the Jags just stunk it up in 2020 from a W/L standpoint.
Compare that with Darnold who has has a 59.8 compl % so far, 8,097 yds in 38 games (213 yds per game), 45 TD's and a whopping 39 INT's...and he hasn't shown any improvement in his 3 seasons w/ the Jets - showing a slight improvement in 2019 from his rookie 2018, but then regressing horribly in 2020.
One of the knocks on him coming out was that he came out too soon (wasn't ready), but after 3 seasons in the NFL and plenty of opportunities to prove he's a decent NFL starting QB, he has shown very little, or no improvement/development.
While there have been some success stories involving QB's developing after a change of scenery from their initial team (Drew Brees being arguably the best example, although he still was halfway decent for the Chargers and had better #'s than Darnold did), I'm not willing to pay $4.7m in 2021 cap dollars and a 2021 mid-Rd pick to find out as those success stories are too few and far between.