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College Football Playoffs Dec 5, 2017 11:12:18 GMT -6 Reignman likes this

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Post by Minniman on Dec 5, 2017 11:12:18 GMT -6

The teams in it this season are:

Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama.

It is strange that the BigTen didn't get a team in because their previously undefeated team, Wisconsin, lost the BigTen championship to the two-loss Ohio State.

Years ago, I proposed a playoff system that had eight teams. The champions of the Power Five conferences would get an automatic bid.

Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, USC, and Ohio State would have made it in.

The three other teams would be at large bids by ranking but must include the top ranked team from the FBS Group of Five, and no conference could have more than two teams included overall. If a conference has two teams, they could not face off against each other in the first round.

This years at large bids would be UCF, Alabama, and Wisconsin. Alabama could not play Georgia, and Wisconsin could not play Ohio State, in the first round.

It would be nice if the top three Group of Five conference winners made it, but they can't really compete with the Power Five teams at this time.

Having eight teams would make this an actual nation-wide playoffs. It would add more games that have stakes greater than just bowl win bragging rights.

Logic is the beginning of wisdom - not the end.

Deleted Ghosted Member Posts: 0 Likes:	College Football Playoffs Dec 5, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -6 I completely agree. But the money tied up in the bowl system will never allow it. It would've been fun as hell watching UCF and Clemson or some matchup like that.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 6, 2017 2:59:44 GMT -6

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Dec 5, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -6 @theleviathan said:

I completely agree. But the money tied up in the bowl system will never allow it.

It would've been fun as hell watching UCF and Clemson or some matchup like that.

They would still use bowl games and bowl stadiums for the playoffs - just more of them more often.

It is a win-win for all involved.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 6, 2017 7:05:36 GMT -6

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Dec 6, 2017 2:59:44 GMT -6 Minniman said:

Dec 5, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -6 @theleviathan said:

I completely agree. But the money tied up in the bowl system will never allow it.

It would've been fun as hell watching UCF and Clemson or some matchup like that.

They would still use bowl games and bowl stadiums for the playoffs - just more of them more often.

It is a win-win for all involved.

The Bowl sponsers have fought the process tooth and nail unfortunately. So, for whatever reason, they disagree.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 6, 2017 9:14:41 GMT -6

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Dec 6, 2017 7:05:36 GMT -6 @theleviathan said:

Dec 6, 2017 2:59:44 GMT -6 Minniman said:

They would still use bowl games and bowl stadiums for the playoffs - just more of them more often.

It is a win-win for all involved.

The Bowl sponsers have fought the process tooth and nail unfortunately. So, for whatever reason, they disagree.

Of course, they are short sighted traditionalists. Why do you think so many southern teams ended up in the top four this season.

With eight teams, there will be no doubt that the championship will be earned.

Logic is the beginning of wisdom - not the end.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 7, 2017 10:34:57 GMT -6

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Post by DaveW on Dec 7, 2017 10:34:57 GMT -6

I think 8 is too many, it just takes away from the regular season too much and you get multiple 2 loss teams in the playoff every year. Teams like Alabama, Oklahoma, OSU will make it every. single. year.

I think 6 is the ideal scenario, the top 2 seeds get a first round bye, so it is still important to potentially go undefeated in a power 5 conference.

The power 5 conference champions all get a spot, and the 6th is a wild card for a 2nd place team in a top conference, or HOPEFULLY an undefeated non power 5 conf champion (UCF)

This year I would have liked to see it break down like this:

1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. OSU
5. USC
6. UCF (Or Alabama)

Frankly Alabama making it at all is bullsh*t, they beat NOBODY.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 7, 2017 13:33:53 GMT -6 Reignman likes this

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Dec 7, 2017 10:34:57 GMT -6 DaveW said:

I think 8 is too many, it just takes away from the regular season too much and you get multiple 2 loss teams in the playoff every year. Teams like Alabama, Oklahoma, OSU will make it every. single. year.

I think 6 is the ideal scenario, the top 2 seeds get a first round bye, so it is still important to potentially go undefeated in a power 5 conference.

No, if anyone adds bye games, I'm leaving. I am NOT adding any frickin' bye games!

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College Football Playoffs Dec 7, 2017 13:46:44 GMT -6 Minniman likes this

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Dec 5, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -6 @theleviathan said:

I completely agree. But the money tied up in the bowl system will never allow it.

It would've been fun as hell watching UCF and Clemson or some matchup like that.

I don't get that. Each playoff game is a bowl now. I'd argue that there's money in it long term. People like playoffs.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 7, 2017 16:18:15 GMT -6 Reignman likes this

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Dec 7, 2017 13:46:44 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Dec 5, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -6 @theleviathan said:

I completely agree. But the money tied up in the bowl system will never allow it.

It would've been fun as hell watching UCF and Clemson or some matchup like that.

I don't get that. Each playoff game is a bowl now. I'd argue that there's money in it long term. People like playoffs.

All those bowls have tradition and prominence as new years day games that people watch. It's not like you can change the Rose Bowl to a playoff game without fundamentally changing what the Rose Bowl has come to stand for.

And maybe they should...but traditions are hard to break.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 7, 2017 16:50:16 GMT -6

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Post by diehardtwinsfan on Dec 7, 2017 16:50:16 GMT -6

As long as the revenue is there, I don't think they will have a hard time breaking with tradition. From my end, I don't watch much college ball, so perhaps I don't understand it, but I'm far more engaged when the team I follow has a chance.

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College Football Playoffs Dec 12, 2017 2:29:30 GMT -6

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Post by Reignman on Dec 12, 2017 2:29:30 GMT -6

I might even consider watching college football if they went to at least an 8 team playoff. Can't stand this bowl nonsense. Even the 4 team format is a bit annoying. It's a half-assed attempt to please everyone. They could even reduce the length of the regular season and go with a 16 team tournament. Eliminate the non-conference nonsense. Most teams go with a cream-puff non conference schedule anyway. Maybe keep 1 non conference game so you could keep some of the non conference rivalries going. Can I say non conference one more time? Play consolation games to fill out the schedule and rotate them as bowl games. Rose Bowl gets the championship game one year, 3rd place game the next, etc.

Or the conference championship games could be the bowl games and still mean something. I mean the bowl games sorta broke tradition anyway, like the Rose Bowl is no longer a Big-10 vs Pac-10 thing. Not to mention how both conference no longer had just 10 teams. At least the Pac-10 now goes by Pac-12. When will it be the Big-14? Maybe they're secretly not counting Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, or Rutgers, but Big-10-The-Other-4-Belong-In-Division-2 is too long?

Never understood how they could get basketball right with the 64 team tournament (until they ruined it with 65+) but then fail so miserably with football.