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Pat Shurmur Jan 3, 2018 10:14:13 GMT -6 Breeze likes this

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I just mean ... I doubt we go into next season with Keenum, Bridgewater, and Bradford on the roster ... one or two will be gone. Why not make the trip with your OC, especially if you're given a chance to start right along with it?

A number of other people have postulated the same twin Coordinator-QB departure to the same destination. I just don't think its that likely, although its clearly a possibility. The one he'd be mostly to want is Keenum, then Bradford (if healthy, which he and we probably wont even find out this year unless Case blows buckets in the playoffs and Sam goes in).

If healthy, wouldn't he want Bradford? Isn't that what you've been saying all along?

I would imagine Keenum and Teddy are the two who get re-signed. Both seem content with the 1A/1B thing. Would Bradford? He was pouting when the Eagles drafted Wentz.

Bradford, if healthy, might be the one finding a new team. I would imagine going with Shurmur would be at the top of his list, especially if the QB situation wasn't solidified and he was the favorite. He'll never be the favorite in Minnesota, especially not now that so many have fallen in love with Keenum too.

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Jan 3, 2018 10:14:13 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Jan 3, 2018 9:59:46 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

A number of other people have postulated the same twin Coordinator-QB departure to the same destination. I just don't think its that likely, although its clearly a possibility. The one he'd be mostly to want is Keenum, then Bradford (if healthy, which he and we probably wont even find out this year unless Case blows buckets in the playoffs and Sam goes in).

If healthy, wouldn't he want Bradford? Isn't that what you've been saying all along?

I would imagine Keenum and Teddy are the two who get re-signed. Both seem content with the 1A/1B thing. Would Bradford? He was pouting when the Eagles drafted Wentz.

Bradford, if healthy, might be the one finding a new team. I would imagine going with Shurmur would be at the top of his list, especially if the QB situation wasn't solidified and he was the favorite. He'll never be the favorite in Minnesota, especially not now that so many have fallen in love with Keenum too.

I'm not sure what you think I've been saying all along. I've said if healthy Bradford is the best QB of the 3, but unless he gets tested yet this year nobody will know with great confidence how healthy he really is. I also don't think he'll worry too much about who the favorite is. Too much can happen between now and March to even speculate anyway. Any one of our QBs could still end up hated goat or folk hero.

I'm also not sure why you think Teddy is OK with being 1B, (he is actually #2). Right now he's probably just happy to be on the roster, but he's always been a starter and undoubtedly thinks he should be again. If he has a choice I think he would go somewhere he knows he can start. As long as Keenum is playing like he has and as long as Sam is here and healthy, he won't be starting.

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Jan 3, 2018 15:13:44 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

Jan 3, 2018 10:14:13 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

If healthy, wouldn't he want Bradford? Isn't that what you've been saying all along?

I would imagine Keenum and Teddy are the two who get re-signed. Both seem content with the 1A/1B thing. Would Bradford? He was pouting when the Eagles drafted Wentz.

Bradford, if healthy, might be the one finding a new team. I would imagine going with Shurmur would be at the top of his list, especially if the QB situation wasn't solidified and he was the favorite. He'll never be the favorite in Minnesota, especially not now that so many have fallen in love with Keenum too.

I'm not sure what you think I've been saying all along. I've said if healthy Bradford is the best QB of the 3, but unless he gets tested yet this year nobody will know with great confidence how healthy he really is. I also don't think he'll worry too much about who the favorite is. Too much can happen between now and March to even speculate anyway. Any one of our QBs could still end up hated goat or folk hero.

I'm also not sure why you think Teddy is OK with being 1B, (he is actually #2). Right now he's probably just happy to be on the roster, but he's always been a starter and undoubtedly thinks he should be again. If he has a choice I think he would go somewhere he knows he can start. As long as Keenum is playing like he has and as long as Sam is here and healthy, he won't be starting.

We'll see. Everything I've read and heard, Zimmer ... and the Vikings consider Teddy the franchise. If that's even close to true, neither Keenum nor Bradford changes that. I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed to compete for the starting job. If all the talk is true, Teddy is the long-term plan ... Keenum and Bradford were short-term options.

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Jan 3, 2018 18:05:10 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Jan 3, 2018 15:13:44 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

I'm not sure what you think I've been saying all along. I've said if healthy Bradford is the best QB of the 3, but unless he gets tested yet this year nobody will know with great confidence how healthy he really is. I also don't think he'll worry too much about who the favorite is. Too much can happen between now and March to even speculate anyway. Any one of our QBs could still end up hated goat or folk hero.

I'm also not sure why you think Teddy is OK with being 1B, (he is actually #2). Right now he's probably just happy to be on the roster, but he's always been a starter and undoubtedly thinks he should be again. If he has a choice I think he would go somewhere he knows he can start. As long as Keenum is playing like he has and as long as Sam is here and healthy, he won't be starting.

We'll see. Everything I've read and heard, Zimmer ... and the Vikings consider Teddy the franchise. If that's even close to true, neither Keenum nor Bradford changes that. I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed to compete for the starting job. If all the talk is true, Teddy is the long-term plan ... Keenum and Bradford were short-term options.

I think you are just reading into it what you want to read into it. Where has Zimmer said in the last year and a half that Teddy is the franchise? A lot has changed in the last 18 months since Teddy WAS the presumptive franchise QB. Coaches are always blathering on about their players to keep their spirits and egos and hopes up. With rare exceptions perhaps nobody in the organization ever said a negative word about Ponder or Tjack or _______insert name of someone else who wasn't that good________when they were here.

But really the only way to find out is to wait and find out.

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Jan 3, 2018 18:48:18 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

Jan 3, 2018 18:05:10 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

We'll see. Everything I've read and heard, Zimmer ... and the Vikings consider Teddy the franchise. If that's even close to true, neither Keenum nor Bradford changes that. I don't see why he wouldn't be allowed to compete for the starting job. If all the talk is true, Teddy is the long-term plan ... Keenum and Bradford were short-term options.

I think you are just reading into it what you want to read into it. Where has Zimmer said in the last year and a half that Teddy is the franchise?

There have been many reports that Zimmer and the Vikings feel this way. Make no mistake about it, had Keenum struggled in consecutive games this season ... Bridgewater would have been back out there. Keenum did well enough to remain starter for this season; and good for him! However, it's all up in the air once the offseason begins. You better believe the Vikings are going to take a long, hard look at Bridgewater.

But, yes, let's wait and see.

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Is Vikings quarterbacks coach Kevin Stefanski grinding toward a coordinator job?

You know time flies when you look up and even young Kevin Stefanski has literally become an NFL graybeard.

Yes, it was 12 years ago that the Vikings quarterbacks coach was a 23-year-old kid packing up his car and following Brad Childress from Philadelphia to Minneapolis to be a teeny part of the staff that succeeded Mike Tice.

Today, the 35-year-old Stefanski is the longest-tenured Vikings coach. He’s watched 50 fellow assistants come and go. He’s coached Brett Favre, seen a stadium collapse and survived not one, but two head coaching changes.

And now, depending on how things go with Pat Shurmur and the Bears, Lions, Cardinals and Giants, Stefanski could become a candidate to succeed Shurmur as Vikings offensive coordinator after the season.

“That’s not something I’m even thinking about,” Stefanski said last week while discussing Shurmur and an offense that ranks 10th in the NFL in scoring (23.9).

“One thing I’ve learned in this business is if you keep your head down and work as hard as you possibly can, good things usually happen.”

Good, lil read: www.startribune.com/is-vikings-quarterbacks-coach-kevin-stefanski-grinding-toward-a-coordinator-job/467752553/

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Jan 6, 2018 16:26:38 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Good read:

I also believe that I saw somewhere the Cardinals had the worst situation of all the teams looking for a head coach at this time. If I were Shumur I would pass on this job. You probably would not survive the rebuild.

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Jan 6, 2018 23:28:11 GMT -6 beckmt said:

Jan 6, 2018 16:26:38 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Good read:

I also believe that I saw somewhere the Cardinals had the worst situation of all the teams looking for a head coach at this time. If I were Shumur I would pass on this job. You probably would not survive the rebuild.

Absolutely, the Cardinals are going to be a dumpster fire for awhile. They have four good players on their entire roster - Fitz, David Johnson, Chandler Jones, and Patrick Peterson. After that the rest of the roster is "meh" to bad.

Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,557 Likes: 31,479 Fan Since: 1998 Member is Online	Pat Shurmur Jan 7, 2018 14:35:27 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Jan 7, 2018 14:35:27 GMT -6 Maybe Keenum is the favorite to go along ... not Bradford. Hmm.

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Pat Shurmur Jan 7, 2018 21:47:28 GMT -6

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Jan 7, 2018 21:44:40 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

Jan 7, 2018 14:35:27 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Maybe Keenum is the favorite to go along ... not Bradford. Hmm. *skeptic*

That can't be right, because if it is, then I was right. So we can scratch that one as a possibility right now. *unsure*

But why wouldn't he want "the best QB on the roster"? Because it's not true? Because Bradford isn't healthy? No one trusts him as a long-term option?

*popcorn*

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Pat Shurmur Jan 7, 2018 22:02:25 GMT -6

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Jan 7, 2018 21:53:06 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

I believe I already answered that.

Shurmur knows who is/isn't healthy. If Bradford isn't his top choice ... that's telling.

Actually, it would not be surprising to me at all ... but it should be for those of you who think Bradford is the obvious #1.