Post by Funkytown on Dec 22, 2023 0:35:19 GMT -6
The Lions could win the division for the first time in 30 years - and celebrate that in our house. Do the Lions fans think it's gonna happen that way? Let's dive in...
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Before tonight's TNF matchup, of course:
Matthew Stafford doesn't win playoff games in Detroit.
Ouch.
Yep! Everyone hates the Skol chant and the horn! Baroo!
Interesting tid regarding Week 18:
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I go into every Division game believing it will be close, regardless of each teams records
This should be a dogfight and Detroit better bring their “A” game
This should be a dogfight and Detroit better bring their “A” game
Last two times I picked tbe Lions to win, they lost.
Vikings by 4!
Vikings by 4!
Lions 34 Vikings 20
Last year, the Lions went up big on the road, but then let the Vikings back it it.
With the No. 2 seed and a division title on the line, that’s not going to happen this year.
Lions put the foot on the gas pedal and put the Vikings away.
Last year, the Lions went up big on the road, but then let the Vikings back it it.
With the No. 2 seed and a division title on the line, that’s not going to happen this year.
Lions put the foot on the gas pedal and put the Vikings away.
It’s the same recipe every single week….
Hold the other team under 28 points!!! We are 4-11 since week 1 of 2022 in games when allowing 28 or more…. We are 15-1 when keeping teams to 27 or less….
That is STAGGERING!!!
Chiefs have faced 28 plus THREE TIMES in 31 games!!!
Bills have faced 28 plus FOUR TIMES in 31 games!!! Ravens also 4 times!!!
49ers have faced 28 plus 5 times, and Bengals 5 times.
Eagles have faced 28 plus 10 times, and Seattle 10 times… Cowboys and Dolphins 9 each… Vikings 8 times
Goff is up against 28 or more 150% more often than any other QB with a winning record the past 2 years
He faces 28 plus twice as many as most, and 3-4 times more often than some….
he has the leagues best winning percentage when facing 27 points of less, and well above average percentage when facing 28 plus.
Hold the other team under 28 points!!! We are 4-11 since week 1 of 2022 in games when allowing 28 or more…. We are 15-1 when keeping teams to 27 or less….
That is STAGGERING!!!
Chiefs have faced 28 plus THREE TIMES in 31 games!!!
Bills have faced 28 plus FOUR TIMES in 31 games!!! Ravens also 4 times!!!
49ers have faced 28 plus 5 times, and Bengals 5 times.
Eagles have faced 28 plus 10 times, and Seattle 10 times… Cowboys and Dolphins 9 each… Vikings 8 times
Goff is up against 28 or more 150% more often than any other QB with a winning record the past 2 years
He faces 28 plus twice as many as most, and 3-4 times more often than some….
he has the leagues best winning percentage when facing 27 points of less, and well above average percentage when facing 28 plus.
I feel like the Lions are coming to ball this Sunday. The division championship is on the line. Vikings better come to play. A little worried about Flores causing our O problems, but I think we get it done and leave with our first NFC North crown
My Lions PTSD has been kicking in all week. We just played a perfect game against the Broncos and now we are going to have a letdown.
I feel like they are going to put us in a panic for 2 weeks and then win at home the last week of the season in a close one.
I guess until they prove me wrong I can’t trust them just because of the history of this Franchise. Also how they had play for 4 weeks previous to the Broncos game.
I feel like they are going to put us in a panic for 2 weeks and then win at home the last week of the season in a close one.
I guess until they prove me wrong I can’t trust them just because of the history of this Franchise. Also how they had play for 4 weeks previous to the Broncos game.
The Lions go all blue, playing on a fast track in a dome… they will be fine. Take the crowd out early with a couple nice scripted drives, heavy run attack. It’ll be more like a home game. I got the Lions in a close one, but I think Glenn has righted the ship with some creative blitzing… and their run game doesn’t scare anybody.
All I want for Christmas is an NFC North title
Nick Mullens is the vikings qb. The Lions should win.
Before tonight's TNF matchup, of course:
Assuming we don't get the bye, who would we like to see in the wildcard round, if we had a choice?
Right now it's (6) Vikings (7-7), (7) Rams (7-7), (8) Saints (7-7), (9) Seahawks (6-7), (10) Falcons (6-8), (11) Packers (6-8)... the Giants and Bears are technically not eliminated, but for all intents and purposes aren't worth considering.
The Rams, Falcons, Saints, Packers are probably my four preferred in order. Stafford's return to Detroit being in Ford Field's first playoff game would be cinematic. And I don't think they're that great of a team. While I think they are going to capitalize on your mistakes if you make any (any playoff team would), I think they would be playing with house money as a 6 or 7-seed. They're a middle of the pack team across pretty much every metric, and I think Goff would have a field day against McVay. Neither the Saints or Falcons impress me. We've done it once and we can do it again. While a rubber match against the Packers doesn't seem appealing, they've plateaued since that matchup, and I think the Lions would be ready to roll over the Packers more akin to the first meeting.
The Vikings I don't love, but I also think we should win. I don't love the idea of playing three out of four consecutive weeks against one opponent. Hopefully we would only be playing starters for one of the first two games, and I'm sure either way we would have cards close to the chest in the second match if we saw the third one coming, but it just feels weird. In any event though, I think we would win.
The Seahawks scare me a bit. They just seem to have our number for some reason. Another game we should win, but we should have beat them in week two. And last year.
Right now it's (6) Vikings (7-7), (7) Rams (7-7), (8) Saints (7-7), (9) Seahawks (6-7), (10) Falcons (6-8), (11) Packers (6-8)... the Giants and Bears are technically not eliminated, but for all intents and purposes aren't worth considering.
The Rams, Falcons, Saints, Packers are probably my four preferred in order. Stafford's return to Detroit being in Ford Field's first playoff game would be cinematic. And I don't think they're that great of a team. While I think they are going to capitalize on your mistakes if you make any (any playoff team would), I think they would be playing with house money as a 6 or 7-seed. They're a middle of the pack team across pretty much every metric, and I think Goff would have a field day against McVay. Neither the Saints or Falcons impress me. We've done it once and we can do it again. While a rubber match against the Packers doesn't seem appealing, they've plateaued since that matchup, and I think the Lions would be ready to roll over the Packers more akin to the first meeting.
The Vikings I don't love, but I also think we should win. I don't love the idea of playing three out of four consecutive weeks against one opponent. Hopefully we would only be playing starters for one of the first two games, and I'm sure either way we would have cards close to the chest in the second match if we saw the third one coming, but it just feels weird. In any event though, I think we would win.
The Seahawks scare me a bit. They just seem to have our number for some reason. Another game we should win, but we should have beat them in week two. And last year.
Do not want to play Stafford, Kupp, Nacua, and Donald. Give me the Aints.
Ouch.
Everything about SKOL including the stupid pattycake clap they do to start the game is dumb as hell.
Yep! Everyone hates the Skol chant and the horn! Baroo!
Listening to the POD podcast, and they mentioned Hockenson has a 32% contested catch percentage. Laporta has an 80% contested catch percentage.
I didn't listen to Goff's interview but on Karsh and Anderson this morning they brought up how when they interviewed Goff last Tuesday he mentioned one of the things that makes LaPorta so good is not only the contested catches he make but when he makes said catches he doesn't usually have to go to the ground to secure them cause he is so sure handed which in turn allows him to pick up YAC.
Atleast on the eye test that was one thing that bugged me so much about Hockenson is that he seemingly had to go to the ground on every catch.
Atleast on the eye test that was one thing that bugged me so much about Hockenson is that he seemingly had to go to the ground on every catch.
Yeah that seems like a shot at Hockenson and about as spicy Goff will get.
Laporta is averaging a half yard of run after catch more than Hockenson and has twice as many broken tackles. Keep in mind Hockenson has 20 more touches than Laporta and Laporta is still double in broken tackles. Hockenson is good at getting open and being an outlet for the QB but he hasn't been the difference maker I thought he would be. He's like a better version of Pettigrew and Laporta is everything we hoped Ebron would be.
Laporta is averaging a half yard of run after catch more than Hockenson and has twice as many broken tackles. Keep in mind Hockenson has 20 more touches than Laporta and Laporta is still double in broken tackles. Hockenson is good at getting open and being an outlet for the QB but he hasn't been the difference maker I thought he would be. He's like a better version of Pettigrew and Laporta is everything we hoped Ebron would be.
Goff didn't say that LaPorta doesn't have to go to the ground to make catches, but rather he doesn't have to leave his feet at all, which allows him to begin his YAC immediately. He said that most TEs will hop a bit when making a catch, and LaPorta just naturally doesn't.
Interesting tid regarding Week 18:
They have to win one game vs Minny and their 3rd string QB. If not, we probably don’t deserve a playoff spot.
If the Lions win out, they clinch at least a two seed. If they win out and the 49ers lose to Baltimore and the Rams, then the Lions get the 1 seed.
All I want for Christmas is you, Penei Sewell, Graham Glasgow, Frank Ragnow, Jonah Jackson, and Taylor Decker. Stick together until the end of the season, and this season might last a long time.
Lions are 9-1 when they give up 28 points or less. The Vikings have only scored 28 or more points once without Cousins (and only once with Cousins).
Kevin O'Connell's largest margin of victory as a Vikings coach is 16 points and that was the first game of the 2022 season. Vikings have a total of 3 games they have won by double digits since 2022. The Lions have 10 such games.
The Lions do not commit many penalties. They are 29th in defensive penalties, however, they are 5th in the number of defensive penalties resulting in 1st downs. When they commit a penalty, they usually commit the worst possible penalty.
Minnesota is the exact opposite. They commit the 4th most penalties on defense but have the fewest penalties that result in 1st downs.
Minnesota is the exact opposite. They commit the 4th most penalties on defense but have the fewest penalties that result in 1st downs.
The Vikings defense ranks dead last in completion percentage. Their blitzing allows for short passing and the rank near the bottom in DVOA to passes to RBs and TEs. They are also one of the worst defenses on passes over the middle. All areas where the Lions thrive. Get the ball out quickly to Gibbs or Montgomery in the flat and let them break tackles.
I don’t have the fancy stats, but from my eye test where the Vikings are really good is in manufacturing pressure. Goff will have to deliver it under pressure.
If you're a superstitious person I just heard that it is a "white out" in Minny on Sunday so they will be wearing all white unis so that means no all white for the Lions who are undefeated in dating back to our turn around last year.
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It's always a nice plus when the opponent is struggling mightily at the QB position...
Hopefully the defense plays like they did Saturday. That was the theoretical defense we were hoping for in the preseason. Nascar fronts, some exotic blitzes and shutting down the run.
The Lions will be laser focused next week. It won’t be easy but I think they’ll get it done.
Goff breaks his tie with Stafford for the most NFC North division titles this century next week....
One thing to note is that the Vikings have really struggled closing out games this season. When they win they barely beat the opposing team or blow a lead and lose to them, so if the Lions keep things close going into the 4th quarter the Lions can pull the rug right under them. I like their chances if the Lions have to play comeback.
Don't let Mullens get confidence especially early in the game. I hope to see a similar plan from the Denver game when the defense made Wilson uncomfortable.
I want to see an ass whoopin.
I remember last year when the Vikings came into Detroit looking to secure the division, and the Lions absolutely pantsed them.
The Vikings assuredly remember that and are going to be eager to return the favor. The Lions are going to need to match that intensity.
The Vikings assuredly remember that and are going to be eager to return the favor. The Lions are going to need to match that intensity.
Thoughts on their thoughts?!?