Post by Josey Wales on Sept 22, 2023 11:05:42 GMT -6
Semantics. 2, different perceptions, IMO.
Pocket presence has never been his strong suit, something he still struggles with at times. But it's one of the areas where I saw some improvement in 2022.
Not 100% wrong. But I would argue that the play-calls were a bigger issue than Kirk, in most instances.
Winning cures everything. If we're NOT turning the ball over 3+ times per game, then we're not having this discussion. Both games would've been winnable without those turnovers, it's just a difference of perception in terms of who we each see as being at fault for the overall poor play.
My point was just that you were the only one to jump to him being bottom tier there.
Koc had issues too but again all the examples in key moments were plays that lead to open wrs before the pass rush got there. He didn’t have any turnovers either. For the game the oline got good blocking grades and receivers good separation grades (JJ top 5, Addison wide on deep play etc). That doesn’t mean koc shouldn’t get blame for a bad running attack/screen game but with that factored in he still consistently called plays that work if you just have even solid qb play. While he doesn’t deserve all the blame for the turnovers you still can’t have 3 as a qb and then also consistently miss open throws and not even see wide open receivers all game. Doing so in almost every key moment makes it worse as well. Either way though on who you blame more, cousins wasn’t remotely close to a top 3 qb that game and most damage in the following game was after we went down 3 scores and defense softened.
In a sense sure it would cure a lot but that’s kind of the point. That’s what happened last year is we had a lot of luck and won every close game. Cousins showed up in big moments more than he normally does for a stretch and deserved props for it. He didn’t actually improve as a qb though. It’s not something that was ever going to be sustainable because he isn’t actually much improved or anything like that. He just had a good stretch in the rs leading us to winning more and it “cured” his perception, in the short term at least. The playoff game and start to this season are showing a regression to the norm in key moments so far. That’s what I am getting at and why I asked the question. I haven’t seen the actual sustainable improvement from him as a qb so was wondering where specifically it was outside of just us winning close ones last season.
Here's some stats that Funkytown shared in her thread. While being one of the most pressured QBs, he's still playing like a top QB.
Don't know what to tell you if you don't see the improvement from when he initially signed with us.
6 touchdowns (1st)
708 passing yards (2nd)
114.2 passer rating (2nd)
34 first downs (3rd)
8.0 yards per attempt (4th)
72.7 completion percentage (4th)
30 drop-backs under pressure (8th)
2.61 avg time to throw (24th) Show