Enemy Fan Forums: Detroit Lions (Part Dos)
Dec 9, 2022 13:35:27 GMT -6
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Post by Funkytown on Dec 9, 2022 13:35:27 GMT -6
Sure seems like the Lions team and their fans are pumped for this game! Let's dive in...
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...Lions actually being favored in this one?
Vikings are on some historical streak in one score games. So either they’re as good as record shows or that luck is bound to run out sooner or later.
Think they’re a good to very good offensive team, but you can put points up on them.
A Minnesota turnover is the difference.
Lions 30
Vikes 23
Though should probably predict a loss, worked out well last week.
Think they’re a good to very good offensive team, but you can put points up on them.
A Minnesota turnover is the difference.
Lions 30
Vikes 23
Though should probably predict a loss, worked out well last week.
if Lions win out rest of way and vikings lose out rest of way the lions win the North.
So you're telling me there's a chance...
that would be an epic collapse for the Vikings. But considering they are just as hot as the Lions 4-1 since the Hock trade, with Colts, Packers and Bears still on their schedule. Oddly enough, I would say the Lions are their toughest remaining opponent.
If it's close, I have to give the edge to the Vikes until Campbell can show he can make the right critical game time decisions in the close games.
I have a feeling Floppenson might choke coming back to Detroit.
I have a feeling Floppenson might choke coming back to Detroit.
I have a feeling the opposite will happen. The Lions can't cover the TE.
I have gone back over the week 3 game against the Vikes, and this is not the same Lions team.
2nd quarter - starting safety Tracy Walker goes down with achilleas tendon tear and replaced by JJ Hughes (no longer with Lions)
Starting CB Jerry Jacobs was still on IR (I guarantee Thielen does not have another week 3 performance)
Starting CB Jeff Okudah allowed Justin Jefferson 3 receptions for 14 yards. (Can we say "shutdown")
Starting Left Guard Jonah Jackson did not play due to injury.
Starting End/3-tech Josh Paschel was still on PUP
Starting End/DT John Cominsky was out due to hand injury
Starting OC Frank Ragnow reaggravated his 2021 toe injury in week 2 against the Commanders.
Starting Safety Joseph Kirby was still acclimating to the NFL.
Starting Designated Pash Rusher James Houston was still developing on practice squad.
Starting WR Jameson Williams was still on NFI
Starting RB Deandre Swift with ankle and shoulder injuries
DB Coach A. Pleasant fired due to poor game planning and on field communication problems. Secondary has been much better since Brian Duker (with AG oversight) has taken over.
Lions have 5 starting Rookies on Defense that have improved immensely over the course of the season. (IOW way better than week 3).
The Lions are healthier than they have been all season. If Evan Brown plays this week our starting OL will finally be together for the 1st time this year. Our starting WR corps will be together for the 1st time this year.
Vikings are in trouble! Lions 34 Vikings 21
2nd quarter - starting safety Tracy Walker goes down with achilleas tendon tear and replaced by JJ Hughes (no longer with Lions)
Starting CB Jerry Jacobs was still on IR (I guarantee Thielen does not have another week 3 performance)
Starting CB Jeff Okudah allowed Justin Jefferson 3 receptions for 14 yards. (Can we say "shutdown")
Starting Left Guard Jonah Jackson did not play due to injury.
Starting End/3-tech Josh Paschel was still on PUP
Starting End/DT John Cominsky was out due to hand injury
Starting OC Frank Ragnow reaggravated his 2021 toe injury in week 2 against the Commanders.
Starting Safety Joseph Kirby was still acclimating to the NFL.
Starting Designated Pash Rusher James Houston was still developing on practice squad.
Starting WR Jameson Williams was still on NFI
Starting RB Deandre Swift with ankle and shoulder injuries
DB Coach A. Pleasant fired due to poor game planning and on field communication problems. Secondary has been much better since Brian Duker (with AG oversight) has taken over.
Lions have 5 starting Rookies on Defense that have improved immensely over the course of the season. (IOW way better than week 3).
The Lions are healthier than they have been all season. If Evan Brown plays this week our starting OL will finally be together for the 1st time this year. Our starting WR corps will be together for the 1st time this year.
Vikings are in trouble! Lions 34 Vikings 21
Campbell's questionable decisions also played a big factor
I hope the Lions just kick thier over rated asses so it's not even an issue.
I hope the Lions just kick thier over rated asses so it's not even an issue.
Lions playoff chances on the line.
Dan Campbell seems fired up after his choices were a big part of our earlier loss.
Let's Go Lions!
Dan Campbell seems fired up after his choices were a big part of our earlier loss.
Let's Go Lions!
Yay go team! We surely won't be let down this time!
Jalen Raegor and his 6 catches. The guy who is forever known to Eagles fans as "the guy we drafted over Justin Jefferson".
If the Lions win the next 2 games Detroit fans might lose their minds. I really like this team. We keep saying it but the culture is real.
I am going to enjoy the game and the ride this year. The playoffs, as much fun as it is it talk about, are unlikely. Would need too much help.
But no matter what else happens we are playing a 2nd meaningful football game in December.
Honestly this team this year has been the most fun as a Lions fan that I've seen since at least 2014 and maybe even the mid 90's. With the potential to go far further in the coming years.
Win or lose on Sunday this has been a great year.
But no matter what else happens we are playing a 2nd meaningful football game in December.
Honestly this team this year has been the most fun as a Lions fan that I've seen since at least 2014 and maybe even the mid 90's. With the potential to go far further in the coming years.
Win or lose on Sunday this has been a great year.
Lions 38-20 Vikings
Not sure if that counts as “winning comfortably” or “winning big”
Not sure if that counts as “winning comfortably” or “winning big”
For some reason I’m expecting the Vikings to press (on offense) and commit mistakes. Due to Vikings turnovers, we’ll eventually build a comfortable lead.
I just see us frustrating them into mistakes.
I just see us frustrating them into mistakes.
Teams have, for some reason, been playing their worst ball against the Vikings. They have an incredibly low DVOA for a 10-2 team. The Cowboys exposed them. Hoping we sic our rookie DE’s on them and it turns ugly, but if history is any indication, we are going to make mistakes too. Thats why I voted for a close win. An ugly 27-23 win.
I want to kill em…but it’ll probably be a really close game, hopefully we can pull if off at home…the place will be rocking
There sure is a lot of confidence for this game by our fan base and even Vegas.
I get it, but think about this way: We lost a tight one with a sellout holiday crowd vs the Bills. The Bills lost a tight one at home with a sellout crowd to the Vikings.
I definitely think its possible. With just a little luck healthwise we beat the Bills. But the Vikings have some weapons. We just have to hit the gas and not look back.
I get it, but think about this way: We lost a tight one with a sellout holiday crowd vs the Bills. The Bills lost a tight one at home with a sellout crowd to the Vikings.
I definitely think its possible. With just a little luck healthwise we beat the Bills. But the Vikings have some weapons. We just have to hit the gas and not look back.
Dan Campbell is also 3-0 as Lions head coach against teams 5 games or better above .500.
Patricia, Caldwell, Schwartz, and Marinelli didn’t win a game combined against a team 5 games or better above .500.
Patricia, Caldwell, Schwartz, and Marinelli didn’t win a game combined against a team 5 games or better above .500.
Not too worried. Had them beat until…well, we all know.
Don’t think this will be a cakewalk. If we win I think it will be by less than 3.
I think we win it because we have to and we need it more than they do.
I think this game is a close one.
Lions win
27 -24
I think this game is a close one.
Lions win
27 -24
Lions take 3 score lead and cruise the rest of the way. Jefferson goes crazy late in game as Lions play prevent defense making score look much closer than game is. Lions have to keep their foot on the gas as Kirk Cousins has been comeback Kirk this season.
Lions 28 Vikings 24
Lions 28 Vikings 24
Vikings win 33-6. We get manhandled. Every single f’ing time I’ve ever been confident in this team, they’ve immediately Dominatrixed me in the balls.
Let’s go with the reverse psychology.
Let’s go with the reverse psychology.
Hutchinson/Houston will feast.
Vikings (+2.5) at Lions
MDS’s take: It might look a little strange that the 5-7 Lions are favored over the 10-2 Vikings, but it makes sense given how well the Lions have been playing lately. They’ll win this one.
MDS’s pick: Lions 24, Vikings 20.
Florio’s take: Nothing gets a 10-2 team more focused and motivated than being a 2.5-point underdog against a team that started the year 1-6.
Florio’s pick: Vikings 30, Lions 27.
MDS’s take: It might look a little strange that the 5-7 Lions are favored over the 10-2 Vikings, but it makes sense given how well the Lions have been playing lately. They’ll win this one.
MDS’s pick: Lions 24, Vikings 20.
Florio’s take: Nothing gets a 10-2 team more focused and motivated than being a 2.5-point underdog against a team that started the year 1-6.
Florio’s pick: Vikings 30, Lions 27.
My take for division opponents in the 2nd matchup is always the same. How did we play in the first will determine the second. We will beat Chicago and Green Bay again. We should have beaten the queens. The boys know we should have won. The boys know they can hang……they are gonna win. Pedal to the floor, I don’t know if that is a blowout, but the aggressiveness it always there. A 17 point lead won’t dissipate this time. The defense won’t give up a gw td in the final minutes this time.
From Frank Schwab at Yahoo Sports:
Lions (-1.5) over Vikings
This is the weirdest, most interesting line of the NFL season. It’ll be a long time before you see another 10-2 team as underdogs against a team with a losing record. By now, anyone who takes the NFL seriously realizes that the Vikings aren’t as good as their record. They’re having one of the craziest seasons in recent history. The Lions are playing well and the betting market has spoken: Don’t trust the Vikings this week.
Lions (-1.5) over Vikings
This is the weirdest, most interesting line of the NFL season. It’ll be a long time before you see another 10-2 team as underdogs against a team with a losing record. By now, anyone who takes the NFL seriously realizes that the Vikings aren’t as good as their record. They’re having one of the craziest seasons in recent history. The Lions are playing well and the betting market has spoken: Don’t trust the Vikings this week.
I hope we’re not the type of team that “needs” bulletin board material.
But it’s funny that Reagor, who is a fantastically awful player, is opening his mouth. Too bad Bennie Blades isn’t around to shut it for him.
But it’s funny that Reagor, who is a fantastically awful player, is opening his mouth. Too bad Bennie Blades isn’t around to shut it for him.
I think our guys are going to MASSACRE them.
That would be a great sign for the Lions considering both Vikings losses this year were blowouts against 2 of the top 5 NFL teams. Oh and Kirk Cousins has thrown 21 TDs to 2 INTs vs his career against the Lions. A blowout is unlikely IMO.
I know, I know. Don’t feed the troll… But still.
Point #1. I agree it would be a great sign for the Lions. The Vikings are a good team.
Point #2. Career stats are pointless for THIS game. There has been a lot of crap football played by the Lions in the last 5 years. Like, a lot. Trust us, Lions fans know that. However, the team is definitely trending up. Every stat split from the first 7 games vs. The last 5 shows that.
I think the Lions will play very tough, and have a very good chance at a win. But you think whatever you want! It is your right as a fan!
Point #1. I agree it would be a great sign for the Lions. The Vikings are a good team.
Point #2. Career stats are pointless for THIS game. There has been a lot of crap football played by the Lions in the last 5 years. Like, a lot. Trust us, Lions fans know that. However, the team is definitely trending up. Every stat split from the first 7 games vs. The last 5 shows that.
I think the Lions will play very tough, and have a very good chance at a win. But you think whatever you want! It is your right as a fan!
If I’m Dan, I’m telling the team not to pay attention. We’re 5-7, with a lot left to prove.
We have to be a pack if sharks this week, more than ever, playing a 10-2 team.
We have nothing to get cocky about. Losing this game effectively ends any thought of a playoff run.
Nose to the grindstone and bring every ounce of grit you have. It will be needed for us to have a chance.
We can beat them, but, it’s going to take every bit of focus and discipline for 60 minutes of football.
Leave the cockiness to third rate WR’s from the other team.
We have to be a pack if sharks this week, more than ever, playing a 10-2 team.
We have nothing to get cocky about. Losing this game effectively ends any thought of a playoff run.
Nose to the grindstone and bring every ounce of grit you have. It will be needed for us to have a chance.
We can beat them, but, it’s going to take every bit of focus and discipline for 60 minutes of football.
Leave the cockiness to third rate WR’s from the other team.
They are coming out and gonna fist fight for 60 minutes, regardless of the score. I have full confidence we come out swinging and don’t let up until we are in victory formation.
I don’t know anything about the author below other than he wrote it on WalterFootball, where mock drafts are lunacy on a good day. However, it’s fun to read his assessment of the Lions/Vikings game from a betting perspective:
"RECAP: It should be no surprise to any frequent readers of the site where I’m going with this pick. I’ve maintained that the Vikings continue to be the most overrated team in the NFL. They’ve been so incredibly lucky this year. I can go through their cupcake schedule and point out all the times they easily could have lost. As mentioned earlier, they were down 10 to the Lions in the fourth quarter, and only came back because St. Brown and Swift got hurt. They needed a missed field goal to beat an Alvin Kamara-less Saints team. They were outgained by 224 net yards against Miami’s third-string quarterback. The Redskins were up seven in the middle of the fourth quarter when Taylor Heinicke gave away the game with a horrible floater interception. And on Thanksgiving, the Vikings were outgained by the Patriots in terms of total yards and yards per play, yet prevailed because the Patriots screwed up twice on special teams.
"The Vikings could easily be 6-5 right now, and if they were, they would not be field goal favorites over the Lions, whom I’ve been touting since July. Completely contrary to the Vikings, the Lions have lost games they should have won earlier in the season. I mentioned the Minnesota game. The Lions would’ve gone up 13-10 at Dallas had Jamaal Williams not fumbled at the 1-yard line at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Detroit was also up by two touchdowns against the Dolphins, but foolishly went into a run-heavy attack against a strong rush defense. The Lions also had a chance to beat the Seahawks despite missing both St. Brown and Swift.
"I think the case can be made that the Lions are better than the Vikings. That may sound asinine if you just look at team records, but team records are the siren song of the uninformed ESPN viewer. First of all, the Lions rank 11 spots higher than the Vikings in adjusted net EPA. Second, if you look at common opponents, you may realize that the Lions have been more impressive. For example, the Vikings were debacled against the Eagles and Cowboys, yet Detroit remained close with both teams. The Lions were up by two touchdowns over the Tua Tagovailoa-led Dolphins, while Minnesota was outgained by 224 yards when Teddy Bridgewater and Skylar Thompson quarterbacked Miami.
“Most casual bettors will look at this spread and wonder why the Lions are favored. I’m looking at this spread and wondering why the Lions aren’t favored by more. This will obviously be a huge play for me.”
"RECAP: It should be no surprise to any frequent readers of the site where I’m going with this pick. I’ve maintained that the Vikings continue to be the most overrated team in the NFL. They’ve been so incredibly lucky this year. I can go through their cupcake schedule and point out all the times they easily could have lost. As mentioned earlier, they were down 10 to the Lions in the fourth quarter, and only came back because St. Brown and Swift got hurt. They needed a missed field goal to beat an Alvin Kamara-less Saints team. They were outgained by 224 net yards against Miami’s third-string quarterback. The Redskins were up seven in the middle of the fourth quarter when Taylor Heinicke gave away the game with a horrible floater interception. And on Thanksgiving, the Vikings were outgained by the Patriots in terms of total yards and yards per play, yet prevailed because the Patriots screwed up twice on special teams.
"The Vikings could easily be 6-5 right now, and if they were, they would not be field goal favorites over the Lions, whom I’ve been touting since July. Completely contrary to the Vikings, the Lions have lost games they should have won earlier in the season. I mentioned the Minnesota game. The Lions would’ve gone up 13-10 at Dallas had Jamaal Williams not fumbled at the 1-yard line at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Detroit was also up by two touchdowns against the Dolphins, but foolishly went into a run-heavy attack against a strong rush defense. The Lions also had a chance to beat the Seahawks despite missing both St. Brown and Swift.
"I think the case can be made that the Lions are better than the Vikings. That may sound asinine if you just look at team records, but team records are the siren song of the uninformed ESPN viewer. First of all, the Lions rank 11 spots higher than the Vikings in adjusted net EPA. Second, if you look at common opponents, you may realize that the Lions have been more impressive. For example, the Vikings were debacled against the Eagles and Cowboys, yet Detroit remained close with both teams. The Lions were up by two touchdowns over the Tua Tagovailoa-led Dolphins, while Minnesota was outgained by 224 yards when Teddy Bridgewater and Skylar Thompson quarterbacked Miami.
“Most casual bettors will look at this spread and wonder why the Lions are favored. I’m looking at this spread and wondering why the Lions aren’t favored by more. This will obviously be a huge play for me.”
Thoughts on their thoughts?!?