Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition

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Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition Jan 5, 2022 18:12:09 GMT -6 Funkytown and Oracle Bone Diviner like this

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Post by Reignman on Jan 5, 2022 18:12:09 GMT -6

Yes, it's another Zimmer thread ... because he's still here *thumb_down*

. ~~Medicore Mike~~ err I mean the Below .500 Bully is one of the best at beating bad teams ... well he was, but that's been trending the wrong way lately, just like everything else. He used to rank #1 in that category, but now he's down to #3. Unfortunately for those of us who want to see some hardware finally added to the trophy case, Zimmer is lousy at beating teams above .500. You know, the ones you typically have to face in the playoffs. Ofc it doesn't matter if you can't even make the playoffs *whistle*

. Which is why he finds himself in the pretender quadrant of this chart, which covers the entire Zimmer era (2014-2021).

And if you're like me and prefer the digits, here's the data for that pretty chart. Ranked by the difference in the 2 win percentages.

               vs TEAMS ABOVE .500   vs TEAMS BELOW .500
    TEAM  DIFF    W- L-T  PCT (RK)      W- L-T  PCT (RK)
 1. MIN  .532    17-40-0 .298 (20)     51-10-1 .831 ( 3)
 2. DET  .482     7-46-1 .139 (32)     38-23-1 .621 (23)
 3. WAS  .463    10-48-0 .172 (29)     37-21-1 .636 (18)
 4. HOU  .456    16-46-0 .258 (25)     40-16-0 .714 (13)
 5. BUF  .435    19-39-0 .328 (16)     45-14-0 .763 ( 6)
 6. CLE  .420     9-56-1 .144 (31)     31-24-0 .564 (28)
 7. BAL  .411    21-37-0 .362 (12)     51-15-0 .773 ( 5)
 8. CHI  .394    15-50-0 .231 (26)     35-21-0 .625 (20)
 9. GRB  .393    24-30-1 .445 ( 5)     52-10-0 .839 ( 2)
10. PHI  .392    19-38-0 .333 (14)     43-16-1 .725 (12)
11. IND  .383    22-41-0 .349 (13)     41-15-0 .732 (11)
12. DAL  .368    21-34-0 .382 (10)     48-16-0 .750 ( 9)
13. NYG  .359    12-49-0 .197 (27)     30-24-0 .556 (29)
14. LAV  .355    18-51-0 .261 (24)     32-20-0 .615 (24)
15. ATL  .341    16-41-0 .281 (22)     41-25-0 .621 (22)
16. LOC  .315    20-42-0 .323 (17)     37-21-0 .638 (17)
17. CIN  .309    19-44-1 .305 (19)     34-21-2 .614 (25)
18. NOS  .308    23-30-0 .434 ( 7)     49-17-0 .742 (10)
19. MIA  .307    18-39-0 .316 (18)     38-23-0 .623 (21)
20. LOR  .302    24-36-0 .400 ( 8)     40-17-0 .702 (14)
21. TAM  .299    14-37-0 .275 (23)     39-29-0 .574 (27)
22. CAR  .299    18-37-1 .330 (15)     39-23-0 .629 (19)
23. KAN  .291    35-26-0 .574 ( 2)     51- 8-0 .864 ( 1)
24. SEA  .289    26-29-0 .473 ( 4)     49-15-1 .762 ( 7)
25. DEN  .287    25-42-0 .373 (11)     35-18-0 .660 (16)
26. ARZ  .272    23-36-1 .392 ( 9)     42-21-1 .664 (15)
27. JAX  .268    10-56-0 .152 (30)     21-29-0 .420 (32)
28. PIT  .261    28-28-0 .500 ( 3)     50-15-2 .761 ( 8)
29. NYJ  .256    12-49-0 .197 (27)     24-29-0 .453 (31)
30. SAF  .238    19-45-0 .297 (21)     31-27-0 .534 (30)
31. NEP  .217    34-23-0 .596 ( 1)     48-11-0 .814 ( 4)
32. TEN  .146    26-33-0 .441 ( 6)     34-24-0 .586 (26)

Last Edit: Jan 6, 2022 22:59:17 GMT -6 by Reignman

Aug 8, 2024 18:42:12 GMT -6 whoskmoon said:

if sitting and watching something versus actually doing it made a person great at it, Reignman would be the next Ron Jeremy.

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Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition Jan 5, 2022 19:04:20 GMT -6 spence likes this

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Jan 5, 2022 18:12:09 GMT -6 Reignman said:

Unfortunately for those of us who want to see some hardware finally added to the trophy case

How big is this trophy case you constantly talk about in practically every 5 posts? What hardware besides the Lombardi Trophy would you like to put in it?

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Post by winatnoon on Jan 5, 2022 19:26:24 GMT -6

I’m actually surprised we did that well against the sub .500s.

Good chart. This is relevant information. Since most of the games are against the bottom feeders, we are getting most of our wins at noon CST.

I don’t see a username change to wininprimetime any time soon.

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Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition Jan 5, 2022 20:00:35 GMT -6

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Post by Reignman on Jan 5, 2022 20:00:35 GMT -6

Jan 5, 2022 19:26:24 GMT -6 winatnoon said:

I don’t see a username change to wininprimetime any time soon.

That's why I blamed you for the Packers loss the other day. *thumb_up*

Jan 2, 2022 20:58:06 GMT -6 Reignman said:

Jan 2, 2022 20:53:51 GMT -6 winatnoon said:

Please!!

Well I see the problem ... it's not noon. *whistle*

Jan 5, 2022 19:04:20 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

How big is this trophy case you constantly talk about in practically every 5 posts?

Is "empty" a size? *skeptic*

Jan 5, 2022 19:04:20 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

What hardware besides the Lombardi Trophy would you like to put in it?

Only one type of hardware goes in the trophy case or you're doing it wrong. The Brady Trophy. Or the Belichick Trophy depending on who wins the Dynasty Bowl February 13th.

Aug 8, 2024 18:42:12 GMT -6 whoskmoon said:

if sitting and watching something versus actually doing it made a person great at it, Reignman would be the next Ron Jeremy.

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Jan 5, 2022 19:04:20 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Jan 5, 2022 18:12:09 GMT -6 Reignman said:

Unfortunately for those of us who want to see some hardware finally added to the trophy case

How big is this trophy case you constantly talk about in practically every 5 posts? What hardware besides the Lombardi Trophy would you like to put in it?

You do know the Packers don't actually keep them in a trophy case? They are on individual pedestals.

You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you are not capable of great violence, you are not peaceful, you are harmless.

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Jan 5, 2022 20:18:58 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

Jan 5, 2022 19:04:20 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

How big is this trophy case you constantly talk about in practically every 5 posts? What hardware besides the Lombardi Trophy would you like to put in it?

You do know the Packers don't actually keep them in a trophy case? They are on individual pedestals.

I almost puked when I saw this pic. Can you please take it down? Please?

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Jan 5, 2022 18:12:09 GMT -6 Reignman said:

vs TEAMS BELOW .500 vs TEAMS ABOVE .500
TEAM DIFF W- L-T PCT (RK) W- L-T PCT (RK)
1. MIN .532 17-40-0 .298 (20) 51-10-1 .831 ( 3)

I hate to nitpick, but this seems ass about to me *skeptic*

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Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition Jan 6, 2022 7:52:56 GMT -6

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Post by diehardtwinsfan on Jan 6, 2022 7:52:56 GMT -6

Unfortunately, it speaks to extremes. Zimmers teams get done what they should against bad teams a bit more often than most teams in the league... Unfortunately, against good teams it's quite a bit less often than it should be. Hence the pretender status. I think 8 seasons is enough of a sample size at this point.

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Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition Jan 6, 2022 8:49:52 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan and Danchat like this

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Jan 6, 2022 7:52:56 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Unfortunately, it speaks to extremes. Zimmers teams get done what they should against bad teams a bit more often than most teams in the league... Unfortunately, against good teams it's quite a bit less often than it should be. Hence the pretender status. I think 8 seasons is enough of a sample size at this point.

8 season is more than enough, usually a sample size is between 3 to 5 years

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Pretender or Contender: Zimmer Edition Jan 6, 2022 10:31:45 GMT -6 Reignman and Funkytown like this

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Jan 5, 2022 19:26:24 GMT -6 winatnoon said:

I’m actually surprised we did that well against the sub .500s.

At one point we were the best team against < .500 teams, looks like we are 3rd, but that's where the "beat the bad teams, lose to the good ones" phrase comes from.

Good work, Reignman , I really like the chart.

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Jan 6, 2022 0:10:04 GMT -6 winatnoon said:

Jan 5, 2022 20:18:58 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

You do know the Packers don't actually keep them in a trophy case? They are on individual pedestals.

I almost puked when I saw this pic. Can you please take it down? Please?

Jealousy is unbecoming. I hate the Packers, but I respect what they have accomplished.

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Jan 6, 2022 10:58:46 GMT -6 TAFKASP said:

Jan 6, 2022 0:10:04 GMT -6 winatnoon said:

I almost puked when I saw this pic. Can you please take it down? Please?

Jealousy is unbecoming. I hate the Packers, but I respect what they have accomplished.

I respect their 4 SBs as well; I do, and.......I’m jealous as can be, and......it makes me sick to see their trophy case, and.... if I want to look at their trophies I can go to one of “their” sites to see them.

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Jan 6, 2022 11:18:59 GMT -6 winatnoon said:

Jan 6, 2022 10:58:46 GMT -6 TAFKASP said:

Jealousy is unbecoming. I hate the Packers, but I respect what they have accomplished.

I respect their 4 SBs as well; I do, and.......I’m jealous as can be, and......it makes me sick to see their trophy case, and.... if I want to look at their trophies I can go to one of “their” sites to see them.

Nah, shame is a great motivator and source of humility. I think that image should be in the site's header so we can all be reminded how sorry the Vikings franchise is! LOL

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