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Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 27, 2020 14:50:01 GMT -6

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Apr 27, 2020 10:49:32 GMT -6 huthuthike said:

Apr 27, 2020 10:23:27 GMT -6 NoresemanSam said:

I think Stanley is going to be a better NFL QB than Love.

Of course you do. Have the vikes ever drafted any player you didn't love?

Yeah. Most of them, because after the first couple rounds I generally don't have strong opinions on them; so it's not love, hate, or whatever. More like, "let's see how these guys do when they get on the field." I don't necessarily think that Stanley will be any good, but I see bust written all over Love.

That said, to answer your question somewhat indirectly, these are the Viking picks that I remember hating on draft day:
Mark Mullaney
Darrin Nelson
Chris Doleman (of course, I was very quickly proven VERY wrong on that one, thankfully - Chris is likely my third favorite Viking ever, after Big Dog and Kirk)
Derrick Alexander (mainly because we were too chicken sh*t to grab Sapp)
Dimitrius Underwood (did anybody but Denny believe Denny's line of BS)
Troy Williamson (had reach/bust written all over him from day one)
Percy Harvin (I was wrong)
Mike Hughes (mainly because I wanted Will Hernandez)

"There is no one most valuable Viking. There are 40 most valuable Vikings" - Joe Kapp upon refusing to accept the team MVP award

Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,657 Likes: 31,578 Fan Since: 1998	Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 27, 2020 20:43:45 GMT -6 via mobile PurpleKoolaid, NoresemanSam, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Apr 27, 2020 20:43:45 GMT -6

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	Last Edit: Apr 27, 2020 23:29:12 GMT -6 by Raptorman You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you are not capable of great violence, you are not peaceful, you are harmless.

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Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 28, 2020 5:20:46 GMT -6

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Apr 26, 2020 12:04:49 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

Apr 26, 2020 11:50:24 GMT -6 hokievike88 said:

Closest one I can think of is Don Majkowski who was pretty damn good but lost his job ( from injury) to Favre.

Don was a sub .500 qb who had one good year in Green Bay. Once he left he did..........nothing. Green Bay for some reason is known as a QB developing team. Yet they have developed no QB that has one a Super Bowl outside their team. People also seem to forget, they didn't draft Favre.

Matt Hasselbeck was probably the best one in the last 20 years. But even Matt's 10 years in Seattle, he only had 5 winning seasons.

Don Majkowski “developed” into a Pro Bowl QB in 1989 throwing for over 4300 yards and 27 TD prior to a career threatening injury - torn rotator cuff. So saying he wasn’t anything special is wrong. The topic was GBs ability to develop QBs and he was developed quite well. You can compare him to Teddy or even Dante post injury - yeah never made it back.
To say he was just a sub 500 QB is just lazy and inaccurate.

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Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 28, 2020 7:06:00 GMT -6

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Apr 28, 2020 5:20:46 GMT -6 hokievike88 said:

Apr 26, 2020 12:04:49 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

Don was a sub .500 qb who had one good year in Green Bay. Once he left he did..........nothing. Green Bay for some reason is known as a QB developing team. Yet they have developed no QB that has one a Super Bowl outside their team. People also seem to forget, they didn't draft Favre.

Matt Hasselbeck was probably the best one in the last 20 years. But even Matt's 10 years in Seattle, he only had 5 winning seasons.

Don Majkowski “developed” into a Pro Bowl QB in 1989 throwing for over 4300 yards and 27 TD prior to a career threatening injury - torn rotator cuff. So saying he wasn’t anything special is wrong. The topic was GBs ability to develop QBs and he was developed quite well. You can compare him to Teddy or even Dante post injury - yeah never made it back.
To say he was just a sub 500 QB is just lazy and inaccurate.

LOL. Joe Namath won the SB and is in the HOF, But in reality he is a sub .500 QB who had 4 winning seasons out of 13. The year he won the Super Bowl he had 15 TD's and 17 interceptions. But. But he has to good, he's in the HOF.

And people b*tch about Cousins 18-12-1 record here in MN.

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Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 28, 2020 17:43:25 GMT -6 via mobile

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Apr 28, 2020 7:06:00 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

Apr 28, 2020 5:20:46 GMT -6 hokievike88 said:

Don Majkowski “developed” into a Pro Bowl QB in 1989 throwing for over 4300 yards and 27 TD prior to a career threatening injury - torn rotator cuff. So saying he wasn’t anything special is wrong. The topic was GBs ability to develop QBs and he was developed quite well. You can compare him to Teddy or even Dante post injury - yeah never made it back.
To say he was just a sub 500 QB is just lazy and inaccurate.

LOL. Joe Namath won the SB and is in the HOF, But in reality he is a sub .500 QB who had 4 winning seasons out of 13. The year he won the Super Bowl he had 15 TD's and 17 interceptions. But. But he has to good, he's in the HOF.

And people b*tch about Cousins 18-12-1 record here in MN.

hokievike88 Bench Warmer Posts: 310 Likes: 220	Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 28, 2020 18:16:39 GMT -6 via mobile vikingpwr likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by hokievike88 on Apr 28, 2020 18:16:39 GMT -6 And Marino was ten times the QB as Namath yet only got to one SB and came away without the Lombardi. If he was our QB he would be called a stat padder.

Deleted Ghosted Member Posts: 0 Likes:	Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 28, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -6 Mondry likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -6 A great read into how the Packers wasted Rodgers: www.theringer.com/nfl/2020/4/28/21239073/aaron-rodgers-packers-career-nfl-draft-jordan-love

Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,657 Likes: 31,578 Fan Since: 1998	Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 29, 2020 11:14:04 GMT -6 Danchat likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Apr 29, 2020 11:14:04 GMT -6 Apr 28, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -6 @theleviathan said: A great read into how the Packers wasted Rodgers: www.theringer.com/nfl/2020/4/28/21239073/aaron-rodgers-packers-career-nfl-draft-jordan-love

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Because We Hate The Packers... Apr 29, 2020 11:44:32 GMT -6

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Apr 29, 2020 11:43:05 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

Do they have one for Defense?

Probably somewhere, but those were just the images in the link that Lev shared. Just wanted to bump that post in case people didn't see the link.

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Because We Hate The Packers... May 5, 2020 12:43:00 GMT -6

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Apr 26, 2020 12:17:45 GMT -6 Mondry said:

Apr 26, 2020 11:42:25 GMT -6 hokievike88 said:

So basically what you are saying is whether in Detroit or Minn or any other NFL franchise winning the Lombardi trophy has to do with the entire team and not just who is under center. A theory that I subscribe to as well. And that was my point.
So many people that post on here state we will never win a Super Bowl with KC as our QB. Or for that matter if we even traded him to New England even the great Bill B couldn’t get it done with him. He is that bad - a perennial stat padding choker. I counter by pointing out there are other ways to get the Lombardi. If QBs the like of Dilfer and Doug Williams can ( and QBs like Marino, Fouts, Tarkenton cannot) then we should be able to put a team around him that can get it done.
What has happened in the past with this organization doesn’t portend the future. Yes I want us to draft the next Tom Brady one day. And in order for that to happen we need to start drafting QBs Hopefully next year we do a GreenBay ie pick QB in first round no matter what other needs we have. But to win the Lombardi just like any given Sunday... I think any given year it could happen if all the chips fall your way. I guess it just boils down to optimism vs pessimism. New England has just spoiled it for everyone in this day of parity they had to have a dynasty.

I think the biggest issue is that people have a hard time differentiating not liking Kirk as a QB and not liking HOW MUCH WE PAY him to be who he is. Personally I like Kirk quite a bit but I do think we paid too much initially. Most teams that pay a QB in that 10-15% of the salary cap range have a really hard time winning if the QB isn't exceptional like Russell Wilson. Kirk is good but he is not in the top 5 so we need to build a pretty strong team around him. I think the 49ers win the superbowl last year with Kirk instead of Jimmy but I'm probably in the minority there.

I don't think the 49ers make it to the Super Bowl last year with Kirk instead of Jimmy. That offense is a quick timing offense, neither of which Cousins does well.

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Because We Hate The Packers... May 5, 2020 12:44:56 GMT -6

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Apr 28, 2020 18:16:39 GMT -6 hokievike88 said:

And Marino was ten times the QB as Namath yet only got to one SB and came away without the Lombardi. If he was our QB he would be called a stat padder.

Are you saying Cousins = Marino as a quarterback?

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Because We Hate The Packers... May 5, 2020 13:22:54 GMT -6

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