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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 5, 2021 21:39:21 GMT -6 via mobile

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Apr 5, 2021 21:27:21 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Mar 14, 2021 10:26:08 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Verdict still out on Gladney, but we will see. I am higher on Irv and Ezra over Gladney for some reason. I have seen us hit on both a 1st and 2nd in the same draft but not 2 1st in the same draft since I been a fan in the 90s.

What did I tell y'all I wasn't that high on Gladney no how. My gut and eyes rarely lie. Figured he wasn't gonna turn out. Still hurts but even if he played his upside was limited already almost 25 old for a 2nd year guy. He was to little to be a star. Cam is that Dude. I knew something was up with Gladney. Can't say I knew he would do this, but I figured he would never see a 2nd contract with us. Now trust me on Rosseau we have to stay away from him.

Agreed on gladney before he was even our pick I said on here I don’t think he will make a very good pro let alone is a good first round pick. And I said that after all these mocks had us taking him. Just thought after watching his highlights and reading a lot about him he didn’t have much upside and didn’t look like he had the instincts or playmaking abilities to be a guy who would be anything more than a alright starter as best case scenario and decent backup as worst case. Just wasn’t worth a first round pick and now even more so in hindsight. Better not take another cb this year in the first or I’m going to flip.

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 5, 2021 21:59:44 GMT -6

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Apr 5, 2021 21:39:21 GMT -6 mikenessfan said:

Better not take another cb this year in the first or I’m going to flip.

We will be flipping together, I will be pissed, No Rosseau and NO CB early is all I ask. I don't get how people get paid so much and do stupid stuff constantly. None of us are perfect, but geez they been looking at these prospects for years and still mess up a lot all around the league. I don't even watch college just started looking at guys in March, and can catch up to some of these so called gurus. I think some of these evaluators be over thinking things.

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 6, 2021 6:10:38 GMT -6

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Apr 5, 2021 20:30:45 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Every time we pick twice in round 1 at least one is a dud. So why keep doing it. Focus on one guy in round one, because obviously we can't handle properly evaluating two guys at the same time at the top. History repeating itself just saying. You would think it would be better getting 2 high picks, but we just end up wasting money on one of them. Same results and same hit rate as if we have on e pick. So no thanks trading a proven Viking for a extra first because we will only pick one keeper and the trajectory stays the same. Jefferson replaced Diggs great pick and the other pick nothing he done with us Gladney. Crazy because someone else will get to get him for the second chance. We will be the ones punished for drafting him. Someone else will get a chance to take a no risk chance. I never understood how that happens ala Kareem Hunt and others.

Isn't the bust rate of 1st round picks around 50%?

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 6, 2021 9:16:38 GMT -6

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Apr 6, 2021 6:10:38 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Apr 5, 2021 20:30:45 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Isn't the bust rate of 1st round picks around 50%?

On Average and with one 1st for us yes. If you look at the multiple picks it's less than 50 . All those picks and we hit on 4 to be honest with the multiple pick years.

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 7, 2021 6:16:51 GMT -6 suncoastvike likes this

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Apr 6, 2021 9:16:38 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Apr 6, 2021 6:10:38 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Isn't the bust rate of 1st round picks around 50%?

On Average and with one 1st for us yes. If you look at the multiple picks it's less than 50 . All those picks and we hit on 4 to be honest with the multiple pick years.

I was referencing the NFL as a whole. I seem to remember reading that the bust rate for first rounders is around 50%... which puts us well within a normal standard deviation if that's the case.

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Apr 7, 2021 6:16:51 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:16:38 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

On Average and with one 1st for us yes. If you look at the multiple picks it's less than 50 . All those picks and we hit on 4 to be honest with the multiple pick years.

I was referencing the NFL as a whole. I seem to remember reading that the bust rate for first rounders is around 50%... which puts us well within a normal standard deviation if that's the case.

Not on multiple 1st round picks we below the threshold we hit on 4 out of 11. I am not a math wiz, but that is less than half.

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 7, 2021 9:53:47 GMT -6

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Apr 7, 2021 9:40:50 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Apr 7, 2021 6:16:51 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

I was referencing the NFL as a whole. I seem to remember reading that the bust rate for first rounders is around 50%... which puts us well within a normal standard deviation if that's the case.

Not on multiple 1st round picks we below the threshold we hit on 4 out of 11. I am not a math wiz, but that is less than half.

you and I have a different opinion on what constitutes a hit. Floyd and Bridgewater certainly fall into a debatable category with freak injuries that changed some things. Even with his current legal issues, Gladney is not in the bust category just yet... and weren't some of the guys you listed not drafted by Rick?

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders! Apr 7, 2021 10:23:54 GMT -6

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Apr 7, 2021 9:53:47 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Apr 7, 2021 9:40:50 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Not on multiple 1st round picks we below the threshold we hit on 4 out of 11. I am not a math wiz, but that is less than half.

Teddy I love as a person, but he was not lighting it up before the injury. He was limited as a passer from the beginning. He has never thrown for over 15 td passes as a QB nor even 4,000. That does not stand out as a franchise QB picked in round 1. Sharriff Floyd everybody act like he was some stud. He played 3 or 4 yrs for us he never showed me all that much before injury neither. Sharriff best year he had 4.5 sacks. He was not special, people crying about Tomlinson not being a 3t rusher and he had 3.5 sacks 1 less. Yet he is a elite run stuffer something Sharriff never was. So if people question what Dalvin Tomlinson can bring at 3T then they couldn't have been super happy with Floyd.

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Apr 7, 2021 9:53:47 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Apr 7, 2021 9:40:50 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Not on multiple 1st round picks we below the threshold we hit on 4 out of 11. I am not a math wiz, but that is less than half.

www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BridTe00.htm

I present to you Teddy stats both before and after injury, bless his heart but he wasn't the one.

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Multiple 1st vs Single 1st Rounders!

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