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Mar 12, 2021 8:53:52 GMT -6 wxman91 said:

Mar 12, 2021 8:47:36 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

If you not willing to swing the bat, you can't hit a home run. Getting a mid rounder won't defer you from getting a 1st rounder the next few years if you miss.

It does prevent you from drafting a G or other position of relevance that might actually “hit”.

Imagine if we had drafted Mannion at pick 88 (he went the next pick) in 2015 instead of Hunter.

Mannion over Hunter would be horrible. What I am saying we have like 2 3rds and 4 4ths. If their was a guy we liked take him. I don't know who is good and is worth it.. But surely we could use one mid pick and try for a younger talent. It's a gamble on all prospects. Sometimes I feel we don't even try to get somebody who can play in the draft. We get late rounders UDFA with a eye already for a camp arm lol. With no intentions to having them compete. So why would a guy want to come to us. We already set our backup QB room without letting guys compete for it. I haven't seen Reignman around but I will give him this. We can take Sloter for example he balled in preseason and they still overlooked him for scrubs. If I outplay you but you still ahead of me the question comes. Are we really letting guys fight for spots? Or is their mind made up beforehand.

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Mar 12, 2021 9:04:40 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Mar 12, 2021 8:53:52 GMT -6 wxman91 said:

It does prevent you from drafting a G or other position of relevance that might actually “hit”.

Imagine if we had drafted Mannion at pick 88 (he went the next pick) in 2015 instead of Hunter.

Mannion over Hunter would be horrible. What I am saying we have like 2 3rds and 4 4ths. If their was a guy we liked take him. I don't know who is good and is worth it.. But surely we could use one mid pick and try for a younger talent. It's a gamble on all prospects. Sometimes I feel we don't even try to get somebody who can play in the draft. We get late rounders UDFA with a eye already for a camp arm lol. With no intentions to having them compete. So why would a guy want to come to us. We already set our backup QB room without letting guys compete for it. I haven't seen Reignman around but I will give him this. We can take Sloter for example he balled in preseason and they still overlooked him for scrubs. If I outplay you but you still ahead of me the question comes. Are we really letting guys fight for spots? Or is their mind made up beforehand.

I’m not going to complain if we use one of the 4th rounders on a QB. We just have to be realistic that the absolute 5% best-case scenario is that the guy after a couple of years turns out to be as good as Kirk or Dak. In other words, a guy who will get paid, but not be able to carry a team.

I’d take that over Jayln Holmes, obviously.

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Mar 12, 2021 9:14:13 GMT -6 wxman91 said:

Mar 12, 2021 9:04:40 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Mannion over Hunter would be horrible. What I am saying we have like 2 3rds and 4 4ths. If their was a guy we liked take him. I don't know who is good and is worth it.. But surely we could use one mid pick and try for a younger talent. It's a gamble on all prospects. Sometimes I feel we don't even try to get somebody who can play in the draft. We get late rounders UDFA with a eye already for a camp arm lol. With no intentions to having them compete. So why would a guy want to come to us. We already set our backup QB room without letting guys compete for it. I haven't seen Reignman around but I will give him this. We can take Sloter for example he balled in preseason and they still overlooked him for scrubs. If I outplay you but you still ahead of me the question comes. Are we really letting guys fight for spots? Or is their mind made up beforehand.

I’m not going to complain if we use one of the 4th rounders on a QB. We just have to be realistic that the absolute 5% best-case scenario is that the guy after a couple of years turns out to be as good as Kirk or Dak. In other words, a guy who will get paid, but not be able to carry a team.

I’d take that over Jayln Holmes, obviously.

I get what you saying, but give me the 5 percent chance instead of 0 for Mannion. It's more then a 5 percent chance they turn out better than Mannion. If a doctor says you have 0 chance to live unless you do this and you get 5 percent, give me the 5 percent chance.. It at least give me a chance right. I would take Minshew over Mannion right now, Foles several backup later rounds. Unfortunately we have no money for a FA backup so the draft is the avenue. People crying over bringing Weatherly back. I would pay double for Weatherly before a no TD having Mannion. Any money wasting money on him.

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Mar 11, 2021 16:04:21 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:49:51 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Just sayin...

but in a debate between Ted Glover and Nick Olson, I would side with Glover 99 times out of 100 without even reading the debate.

Both are awesome, but some of you need to stop hating on Nick. He takes playful digs at the Vikings all the time, just as we do. You guys apparently just ignore that. He's one of the smartest Vikings fans out there. Dude knows his stuff. I'd love to see some of the discussions he'd have with guys like Danchat , Reignman , whoskmoon , Minniman , Uncle , etc. I've invited him before, as he and I have known each other since the Vikings Journal days. Why come when people regularly hate on him for no reason? Knock it off. All of you. lol. Same goes for Dustin! Quit being jerks, jerks! *lol*

Can't speak for everyone else, but I only have an issue with him because just about every tweet of his you post here is him creating a straw man and then proving it wrong with cherry picked stats.

If he has tweets that actually make good points you should post those instead cause the ones you are posting are making him look bad.

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Self inflicted Wounds Mar 12, 2021 9:50:47 GMT -6 via mobile

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Mar 12, 2021 9:36:30 GMT -6 whoskmoon said:

Mar 11, 2021 16:04:21 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Both are awesome, but some of you need to stop hating on Nick. He takes playful digs at the Vikings all the time, just as we do. You guys apparently just ignore that. He's one of the smartest Vikings fans out there. Dude knows his stuff. I'd love to see some of the discussions he'd have with guys like Danchat , Reignman , whoskmoon , Minniman , Uncle , etc. I've invited him before, as he and I have known each other since the Vikings Journal days. Why come when people regularly hate on him for no reason? Knock it off. All of you. lol. Same goes for Dustin! Quit being jerks, jerks! *lol*

Can't speak for everyone else, but I only have an issue with him because just about every tweet of his you post here is him creating a straw man and then proving it wrong with cherry picked stats.

If he has tweets that actually make good points you should post those instead cause the ones you are posting are making him look bad.

Are you talking about Dustin or Nick? That doesn't sound like Nick at all. But Nick has no issue debating and backing up his points. You have to click the main tweets to see the threads/discussion. Dig a little deeper, guys. Yeah, sometimes I post a tweet or two, but ... there's a lot more where that came from.