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See we never learn from anything, that is why a change is needed. First off I am hearing rumblings of bringing Sean Mannion back why? He is terrible if Cousins goes down we are done. I rather go with Stanley then him. We usually only keep 2 QBs so they won't give no one a chance to upseat Mannion over film room. Cousins is 32 yrs old, he knows what to expect. So like always we won't even draft a guy at a decent spot. So just like the Teddy injury all our eggs in one basket.. Didn't being lucky and having Keenum behind Bradford teach us anything? Because Kirk has never gotten hurt they think he is invincible pure stupidity and laziness.

Here is the second gripe, our coaching stinks. So I am hearing all over the net how Orlando Brown is not a scheme fit. So someone who can actually block is not a scheme fit? You must be light in the butt, and crappy to be a scheme fit. If passing on physical men movers is not a fit maybe your sorry scheme is really the bad fit...It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. If passing on strong talent and having no physicality on your OL is what you want change your dang scheme seriously...SMH

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Mar 11, 2021 14:31:21 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

See we never learn from anything, that is why a change is needed. First off I am hearing rumblings of bringing Sean Mannion back why? He is terrible if Cousins goes down we are done. I rather go with Stanley then him. We usually only keep 2 QBs so they won't give no one a chance to upseat Mannion over film room. Cousins is 32 yrs old, he knows what to expect. So like always we won't even draft a guy at a decent spot. So just like the Teddy injury all our eggs in one basket.. Didn't being lucky and having Keenum behind Bradford teach us anything? Because Kirk has never gotten hurt they think he is invincible pure stupidity and laziness.

What QB2 do you have in mind that you're confident that can come in and win games if KC is hurt? And where are you finding the money to pay said QB2?

Mar 11, 2021 14:31:21 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Here is the second gripe, our coaching stinks. So I am hearing all over the net how Orlando Brown is not a scheme fit. So someone who can actually block is not a scheme fit? You must be light in the butt, and crappy to be a scheme fit. If passing on physical men movers is not a fit maybe your sorry scheme is really the bad fit...It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. If passing on strong talent and having no physicality on your OL is what you want change your dang scheme seriously...SMH

These kinds of conversations?

My advice? Don't get so emotional over what you read on Twitter, FB, etc. Let's see how it plays out. It's still very early. Look around. A lot of fanbases are full of anxiety and/or disgust right now because of uncertainty, paying for past mistakes, so many questions moving forward, etc.

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Mar 11, 2021 14:46:12 GMT -6 Purple Pain said:

What QB2 do you have in mind that you're confident that can come in and win games if KC is hurt? And where are you finding the money to pay said QB2?

We need to draft a QB mid round and let Stanley and said QB with upside compete. Mannion shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO. We do pass on the physical OL players alot. Let's be honest we wanted a OG but they got taken. O'Neill was the last of the projected early round guys left so we lucked into him. Ezra I think has promise. I just trying to win baby, we been talking about this OL for how long? Fix it already lol. I have reason to be frustrated, I been loyal. Like people say show me the baby. Its time to fix this stuff.

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Mar 11, 2021 14:46:12 GMT -6 Purple Pain said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:31:21 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

See we never learn from anything, that is why a change is needed. First off I am hearing rumblings of bringing Sean Mannion back why? He is terrible if Cousins goes down we are done. I rather go with Stanley then him. We usually only keep 2 QBs so they won't give no one a chance to upseat Mannion over film room. Cousins is 32 yrs old, he knows what to expect. So like always we won't even draft a guy at a decent spot. So just like the Teddy injury all our eggs in one basket.. Didn't being lucky and having Keenum behind Bradford teach us anything? Because Kirk has never gotten hurt they think he is invincible pure stupidity and laziness.

What QB2 do you have in mind that you're confident that can come in and win games if KC is hurt? And where are you finding the money to pay said QB2?

Mar 11, 2021 14:31:21 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Here is the second gripe, our coaching stinks. So I am hearing all over the net how Orlando Brown is not a scheme fit. So someone who can actually block is not a scheme fit? You must be light in the butt, and crappy to be a scheme fit. If passing on physical men movers is not a fit maybe your sorry scheme is really the bad fit...It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. If passing on strong talent and having no physicality on your OL is what you want change your dang scheme seriously...SMH

These kinds of conversations?

My advice? Don't get so emotional over what you read on Twitter, FB, etc. Let's see how it plays out. It's still very early. Look around. A lot of fanbases are full of anxiety and/or disgust right now because of uncertainty, paying for past mistakes, so many questions moving forward, etc.

Here is another thing everybody doing something is a bad thing go against the grain. If everybody want the same guys less chance you get them. Like the3-4 it was good when Parcells was doing it. When everybody started doing it it made it hard to find the pass rushers for the scheme because everybody was grabbing them and you need specific guys for that scheme. Dig what I'm saying?

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Mar 11, 2021 14:46:12 GMT -6 Purple Pain said:

My advice? Don't get so emotional over what you read on Twitter, FB, etc. Let's see how it plays out. It's still very early. Look around. A lot of fanbases are full of anxiety and/or disgust right now because of uncertainty, paying for past mistakes, so many questions moving forward, etc.

It's your fault pain LOL! You got me over here drooling and fantasizing after putting up that outstanding top 5 potential, throw our hats in the contender ring OL. *lol*

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Mar 11, 2021 14:49:51 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Just sayin...

but in a debate between Ted Glover and Nick Olson, I would side with Glover 99 times out of 100 without even reading the debate.

Both are awesome, but some of you need to stop hating on Nick. He takes playful digs at the Vikings all the time, just as we do. You guys apparently just ignore that. He's one of the smartest Vikings fans out there. Dude knows his stuff. I'd love to see some of the discussions he'd have with guys like Danchat, Reignman, whoskmoon, Minniman, Uncle, etc. I've invited him before, as he and I have known each other since the Vikings Journal days. Why come when people regularly hate on him for no reason? Knock it off. All of you. lol. Same goes for Dustin! Quit being jerks, jerks! *lol*

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Mar 11, 2021 16:04:21 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:49:51 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Just sayin...

but in a debate between Ted Glover and Nick Olson, I would side with Glover 99 times out of 100 without even reading the debate.

Both are awesome, but some of you need to stop hating on Nick. He takes playful digs at the Vikings all the time, just as we do. You guys apparently just ignore that. He's one of the smartest Vikings fans out there. Dude knows his stuff. I'd love to see some of the discussions he'd have with guys like Danchat , Reignman , whoskmoon , Minniman , Uncle , etc.

Nick is a good guy, but his I.D. photo gives him up:

I've invited him before, as he and I have known each other since the Vikings Journal days. Why come when people regularly hate on him for no reason? Knock it off. All of you. lol.

We don't hate on him. He gets the same treatment that anyone who actually posts here would. That is, we examine his posts critically. Some of that is positive, and some is negative. That is with due respect.

It isn't like he is being asked to post in the off-topic area.

Logic is the beginning of wisdom - not the end.

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Mar 11, 2021 16:04:21 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:49:51 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Just sayin...

but in a debate between Ted Glover and Nick Olson, I would side with Glover 99 times out of 100 without even reading the debate.

Both are awesome, but some of you need to stop hating on Nick. He takes playful digs at the Vikings all the time, just as we do. You guys apparently just ignore that. He's one of the smartest Vikings fans out there. Dude knows his stuff. I'd love to see some of the discussions he'd have with guys like Danchat , Reignman , whoskmoon , Minniman , Uncle , etc. I've invited him before, as he and I have known each other since the Vikings Journal days. Why come when people regularly hate on him for no reason? Knock it off. All of you. lol. Same goes for Dustin! Quit being jerks, jerks! *lol*

I don't know what he does and doesn't know. But I know cherry picking when I see it. He'd be welcome to post here and I'm sure he would contribute if he came, but he'd get some well deserved crap for some of his tweets.

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If a lot of "good" teams use the wide zone scheme, then sheesh we must be really bad at it..Well I know it starts with the coaching and talent evaluators. Im not going to act like I know exactly what it even means but my god I am not a fan of whatever Oline scheme we are running. Sadly we are going to be stuck with everything until at the very least Zim goes. I mean Dennison is still here ? Come on. Mannion is coming back ? lol what a joke, like it has been stated if Kirk goes down the year is over anyway, see what you have in Stanley or Browning. Mannion maybe the worst backup in the league as it is. It may cost Kirk and Rick there jobs too but I would think this is the final year of a lot of Vikings chapters if we don't win the Super Bowl.

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Mar 11, 2021 14:54:38 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:46:12 GMT -6 Purple Pain said:

What QB2 do you have in mind that you're confident that can come in and win games if KC is hurt? And where are you finding the money to pay said QB2?

We need to draft a QB mid round and let Stanley and said QB with upside compete. Mannion shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO. We do pass on the physical OL players alot. Let's be honest we wanted a OG but they got taken. O'Neill was the last of the projected early round guys left so we lucked into him. Ezra I think has promise. I just trying to win baby, we been talking about this OL for how long? Fix it already lol. I have reason to be frustrated, I been loyal. Like people say show me the baby. Its time to fix this stuff.

Let’s get a 3rd round QB pick...like Sean Mannion.

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Mar 12, 2021 8:36:19 GMT -6 wxman91 said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:54:38 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

We need to draft a QB mid round and let Stanley and said QB with upside compete. Mannion shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO. We do pass on the physical OL players alot. Let's be honest we wanted a OG but they got taken. O'Neill was the last of the projected early round guys left so we lucked into him. Ezra I think has promise. I just trying to win baby, we been talking about this OL for how long? Fix it already lol. I have reason to be frustrated, I been loyal. Like people say show me the baby. Its time to fix this stuff.

Let’s get a 3rd round QB pick...like Sean Mannion.

How bout a 3rd or 4th rounder like Russell Wilson or Dak Prescott instead.

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Mar 12, 2021 8:36:19 GMT -6 wxman91 said:

Mar 11, 2021 14:54:38 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

We need to draft a QB mid round and let Stanley and said QB with upside compete. Mannion shouldn't even be in the NFL IMO. We do pass on the physical OL players alot. Let's be honest we wanted a OG but they got taken. O'Neill was the last of the projected early round guys left so we lucked into him. Ezra I think has promise. I just trying to win baby, we been talking about this OL for how long? Fix it already lol. I have reason to be frustrated, I been loyal. Like people say show me the baby. Its time to fix this stuff.

Let’s get a 3rd round QB pick...like Sean Mannion.

If you not willing to swing the bat, you can't hit a home run. Getting a mid rounder won't defer you from getting a 1st rounder the next few years if you miss.

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Mar 11, 2021 14:31:21 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

See we never learn from anything, that is why a change is needed. First off I am hearing rumblings of bringing Sean Mannion back why? He is terrible if Cousins goes down we are done. I rather go with Stanley then him. We usually only keep 2 QBs so they won't give no one a chance to upseat Mannion over film room. Cousins is 32 yrs old, he knows what to expect. So like always we won't even draft a guy at a decent spot. So just like the Teddy injury all our eggs in one basket.. Didn't being lucky and having Keenum behind Bradford teach us anything? Because Kirk has never gotten hurt they think he is invincible pure stupidity and laziness.

Here is the second gripe, our coaching stinks. So I am hearing all over the net how Orlando Brown is not a scheme fit. So someone who can actually block is not a scheme fit? You must be light in the butt, and crappy to be a scheme fit. If passing on physical men movers is not a fit maybe your sorry scheme is really the bad fit...It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. If passing on strong talent and having no physicality on your OL is what you want change your dang scheme seriously...SMH

doesn't anyone else remember the Ponder years? Spielman came out and said he doesn't believe in competition at the QB position. He doesn't believe that it helps a starting QB to be looking over his shoulder. I almost puked when I heard that one.

As for the oline, I am convinced that there is not one single person on this franchise that has a clue about the oline and how to assemble one. Its been over a decade people. Its just not going to happen with this regime.

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Mar 12, 2021 8:47:36 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Mar 12, 2021 8:36:19 GMT -6 wxman91 said:

Let’s get a 3rd round QB pick...like Sean Mannion.

If you not willing to swing the bat, you can't hit a home run. Getting a mid rounder won't defer you from getting a 1st rounder the next few years if you miss.

It does prevent you from drafting a G or other position of relevance that might actually “hit”.

Imagine if we had drafted Mannion at pick 88 (he went the next pick) in 2015 instead of Hunter.