[OC] - Drafting QBs Early and the Art of Tanking
Aug 19, 2021 16:44:50 GMT -6
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Post by Uncle on Aug 19, 2021 16:44:50 GMT -6
I don't know if making the Pro Bowl is the correct methodology to use when determining the value of a 1st Rd pick. Case in point: Anthony Castonzo was a 1st Rd pick (#22 overall) for the Colts in 2011 and had a very solid career as their LT from 2011 through his retirement after the 2020 season, was relatively injury-free for his 10-yr career and the only time his PFF grade was below 70.0 was his rookie year in 2011 when it was 68.9. But he never made the Pro Bowl.
If you knew pre-Draft that you could get a solid, reliable and at-times really good, OT for the next 10 years in the 1st Rd - would you say that was "good value"? I certainly would and I doubt any Colts fans have any regrets about drafting Castonzo in the 1st, regardless if he made the Pro Bowl or not.
To me, the better methodology to determining the "value" of 1st Rd players - especially considering the emphasis on getting as many starting snaps out of players while on their cheap, rookie contract - is whether or not you pick up the 5th yr option. If you pick that up - even if they don't make the Pro Bowl - you've determined that they are a valuable enough player to your team that you want to keep them "under control" for another year.
Just to coincide w/ the "Zimmer era", here is the history of 5th yr options not "picked up" by NFL Teams from the 2014-2019 Drafts:
2014: 9 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
2015: 12 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
2016: 14 out of the 31 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up*
2017: 14 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
2018: 10 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
*note: only 31 players drafted in Rd 1 in 2016 due to Patriots forfeiting Rd 1 pick due to Deflategate
So out of the 159 players drafted in Rd 1 from 2014-2019, 59 of them had their 5th-yr options declined (or they were released like Josh Rosen), which means that recent history tells us you have a 63% chance of finding solid value in a Round 1 pick.
...and because you have a 63% chance of finding solid value in a Rd 1 pick, and because you pay less for those solid-value NFL players in Years 1-4 - especially considering the price for "solid value" players on the open market in free agency - that's why teams value those 1st Rd picks so much. Considering the price for solid OL players on the open market (ie, the only offseason award Joe Thuney has ever earned was 2nd Team All-Pro in 2019 and the Chiefs had to cough-up $80m over 5 yrs for him), I'll gladly take a better than 50% shot of finding a solid OL player in Round 1 and paying him a reduced salary for 5 yrs and NFL teams could probably care less if that player only had a 35% chance of making the Pro Bowl....
If you knew pre-Draft that you could get a solid, reliable and at-times really good, OT for the next 10 years in the 1st Rd - would you say that was "good value"? I certainly would and I doubt any Colts fans have any regrets about drafting Castonzo in the 1st, regardless if he made the Pro Bowl or not.
To me, the better methodology to determining the "value" of 1st Rd players - especially considering the emphasis on getting as many starting snaps out of players while on their cheap, rookie contract - is whether or not you pick up the 5th yr option. If you pick that up - even if they don't make the Pro Bowl - you've determined that they are a valuable enough player to your team that you want to keep them "under control" for another year.
Just to coincide w/ the "Zimmer era", here is the history of 5th yr options not "picked up" by NFL Teams from the 2014-2019 Drafts:
2014: 9 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
2015: 12 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
2016: 14 out of the 31 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up*
2017: 14 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
2018: 10 out of the 32 players drafted in Round 1 did not have their 5th yr options picked-up
*note: only 31 players drafted in Rd 1 in 2016 due to Patriots forfeiting Rd 1 pick due to Deflategate
So out of the 159 players drafted in Rd 1 from 2014-2019, 59 of them had their 5th-yr options declined (or they were released like Josh Rosen), which means that recent history tells us you have a 63% chance of finding solid value in a Round 1 pick.
...and because you have a 63% chance of finding solid value in a Rd 1 pick, and because you pay less for those solid-value NFL players in Years 1-4 - especially considering the price for "solid value" players on the open market in free agency - that's why teams value those 1st Rd picks so much. Considering the price for solid OL players on the open market (ie, the only offseason award Joe Thuney has ever earned was 2nd Team All-Pro in 2019 and the Chiefs had to cough-up $80m over 5 yrs for him), I'll gladly take a better than 50% shot of finding a solid OL player in Round 1 and paying him a reduced salary for 5 yrs and NFL teams could probably care less if that player only had a 35% chance of making the Pro Bowl....