Post by beckmt on Mar 26, 2018 9:16:02 GMT -6
Well my good pal Nemmy there pretty much hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. Good job buddy. But let me address a few specifics here with the "listen and believe" fundamentalists.
beckmt: What do you have to do for you Reignman, produce videos to prove the sexual assault.
This could have been stopped years before, but when Nasser's higher up did not believe this, the investigations never got off the ground
Funkytown: Geez. Do we really need to discuss sexual assault in the shoutbox?
So, if a woman you cared about came to you and told you of a rape ... you wouldn't believe her until it went to court and it was resolved?
But it's also not the simple either. No I'm not necessarily just going to believe a female acquaintance. If she has a questionable reputation, or a history of accusing men of rape, I might be a little more skeptical. I don't think I know any girls like that however, so it's not something I need to worry about personally, but that's another thing to consider.
I get what you're saying; HOWEVER, simply dismissing women as liars all of the time is incredibly dangerous, too. Why do you think these things get so out of hand with these "big shot" men?!
It's not necessarily about lying either. Women have regrets and make stupid decisions when they drink. They even forget the details of what or how things exactly happened. Emotions can get in the way too. Is it fair for a woman to consent to sex, regret it, and decide to file rape or sexual assault charges later? Because that happens an awful lot too. Or maybe she thought the relationship was a bit more serious and found out the guy only wanted a one night stand or something. Women can be vindictive too you know. Don't blame me for not buying into the propaganda, blame the fact that women are in fact very human.
And I certainly don't buy into this BS that an intoxicated woman can't give consent. f*ck that noise. If that's the case, then we as a society need to make a decision. Are women grown a$$ adults responsible enough to make their own decisions or are they still children? If women are incapable of making responsible decisions when they're drunk that could lead to the incarceration of another human being, then women shouldn't be allowed to drink until we determine an age where they can demonstrate that kind of responsibility. So which is it ladies, do you want to be treated like grown a$$ adults or coddled like children?
Sad to say the way things are going now, it is not hard to believe until you get multiple accusations, or a medical exam shortly after a rape (this is hard if a guy uses a condom or forces the women to clean herself up before he leaves), that most rapes will not be proved (to Reignman's standards).
So then what would be the punishment for a false accusation in your listen listen and believe world anyway? Nothing? Is there a plan for that? We don't have a punishment for it now. Yeah that system would work out real well for men wouldn't it?
And if you think it's difficult to prove that a guy raped a girl, how much more difficult do you think it's going to be for a guy to prove he didn't rape a girl? Even if a guy makes a girl cleanup, she still has access to the crime scene. She is the crime scene. If a guy is accused of rape and the burden of proof is on him, is the girl going to make the crime scene available for an investigation? Or how is he supposed to prove he didn't rape her? We're really just supposed to lockup any guy that's accused of sexual assault lol? Really? Orwellian.
Maybe he has been hurt by a false accusation
but more often than not these acts actually did occur.
However in modern day court, the defense almost always attacks the female's sexual history as a way of saying she is always consensual an this accusation is just a way of getting the guy.
Where do we start. Do you realize the power men have in these situations?? People can weigh in, one slip and you're off the traveling squad, two and you are out of the front line program. That is pressure on young athletes, since it is the parents putting up the time and money early. Most of the time it is go along get along, or you will be eased out of the front line program.
I went with a person for 5 years and married another, both had come from abusive marriages. Stranger rape is a very small number of actual rapes, most are date, party and family rapes. These are hard to report, and the party and date rapes are hard to covict.
With you standards Reignman why bother to report, it will be dismissed.