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Oh boy... that tie still gives me nightmares. Better than a loss, though! Woot!
Not that I am admitting defeat. But just covering all scenarios. IF The Vikings were to show up and win, we’d go 2-2. I can still see is splitting games with Detroit and MN. I can also see sweeping Chicago. That could really turn into a 3-3 Division record, which isn’t that out of the ordinary as far as everyone predicting before Regular season.
We are currently 2-1 if we added 3-3
That’s 5-4 with these other 8 outside NFC North games ahead.
@ Rams L
Cardinal at Home W
Texans at Home W
@ Jacksonville W
49ers @ Home L
Dolphins @ Home W
@ Seahawks Split Win between these
Saints @ Home Split W between these
I can still see projecting a 10-7 record and likely Postseason Visit
Whoomp! There it is! ^
Hmm. Just when I thought I couldn't possibly like Jones any more...
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This is going to be a much more daunting task than the last 2 weeks. One good thing is we are at home.
Not looking forward to Aaron Jones screen passes, at all. If Stokes or JA can keep up with Jefferson for 3 seconds the pass rush may get home more often than not. Minny's OLB's look strong, so our OT's will need to be sharp. Love plays, well, but penalties (again!!) derail a few drives.
GB 37-Vikes 34 in OT. Narvy bangs a game winning 50 yarder.
GB 37-Vikes 34 in OT. Narvy bangs a game winning 50 yarder.
I think that Aaron Jones is going to have a field day but I think/hope that we will also keep our run-oriented offense in gear no matter who is at quarterback.
GB 24 - Vikings 24 in OT.
GB 24 - Vikings 24 in OT.
Oh boy... that tie still gives me nightmares. Better than a loss, though! Woot!
I don't know why, but I'm feeling a little optimistic here.
Obviously credit where credit is due. 3-0 is 3-0. It's too early to tell too much, but I can't help but wonder about the opposition here. You have the Giants, who are going to be a contender for the #1 draft pick if I had to guess. And on paper, the 49ers and Texans SHOULD be great teams, ones that many had penciled in as super bowl contenders. Maybe that will hold true, and those will remain quality wins. But if you're assessing solely based on this season thus far....those wins lose a little luster all the sudden. The Texans other two games were them barely winning against the Colts and Bears...both of whom are not good. The 49ers beat up on the Jets, but also lost to whoever the Rams could dress that wasn't already out injured.
And to be fair to the Vikings they are playing very well, and you can only beat whoever's scheduled in front of you. But I don't know...I think if I were a Vikings fan, I'd still have a hard time fully trusting Darnold. It seemed like heading into the season he was at best going to be viewed as a "bridge" QB for McCarthy to develop behind. And prior to this season has a career passer rating of 80.7 and a career QBR of 44.0 - this season those numbers are 117.3 and 73.5, respectively. Is that sustainable, or should we expect to see some regression there at some point? Hopefully it's this week, if so.
Obviously credit where credit is due. 3-0 is 3-0. It's too early to tell too much, but I can't help but wonder about the opposition here. You have the Giants, who are going to be a contender for the #1 draft pick if I had to guess. And on paper, the 49ers and Texans SHOULD be great teams, ones that many had penciled in as super bowl contenders. Maybe that will hold true, and those will remain quality wins. But if you're assessing solely based on this season thus far....those wins lose a little luster all the sudden. The Texans other two games were them barely winning against the Colts and Bears...both of whom are not good. The 49ers beat up on the Jets, but also lost to whoever the Rams could dress that wasn't already out injured.
And to be fair to the Vikings they are playing very well, and you can only beat whoever's scheduled in front of you. But I don't know...I think if I were a Vikings fan, I'd still have a hard time fully trusting Darnold. It seemed like heading into the season he was at best going to be viewed as a "bridge" QB for McCarthy to develop behind. And prior to this season has a career passer rating of 80.7 and a career QBR of 44.0 - this season those numbers are 117.3 and 73.5, respectively. Is that sustainable, or should we expect to see some regression there at some point? Hopefully it's this week, if so.
I rarely feel that the other team has the better coach. IMO this is a toss-up. The MN guy is pretty good and seems to scheme open guys even better than MLF. I hope AJ has a nice game (not too nice). I am confident the Pack has the better overall roster. Pack in a tight one with home field being the difference.
P.S- If Love starts and is rusty and GB offense is struggling does anyone think there is any chance MLF turns to Malik late in the game?
P.S- If Love starts and is rusty and GB offense is struggling does anyone think there is any chance MLF turns to Malik late in the game?
Also the the Vikings Run Defense is like Chicago last year , very good. Except they just played the Texans, who were missing RB1 AND RB2. I’m not suggesting we will put up our customary 200 rushing. I am suggesting GB is an easy Top 5 Rushing team operating near full strength. As good as MN Defense is? I still think we can Rush 30X4.0 for 125 yards or so. That does not make us 1-dimensional like Houston.
The Vikings Pass Defense is underwhelming. I’m really hoping Jordan is back because THAT needs to be challenged. We have a good enough Run game to not abandon it. The GB Offense production is ranked #5, we are not some slouches Minnesota. GB also has a better DB group and better pass Rush than Houston to combat their Air attack. If the Vikes are expecting a Houston rematch they are going to be dismayed.
I’m mainly hoping Jordan plays. He will burn them for being greedy in the Pass Rush.
The Vikings Pass Defense is underwhelming. I’m really hoping Jordan is back because THAT needs to be challenged. We have a good enough Run game to not abandon it. The GB Offense production is ranked #5, we are not some slouches Minnesota. GB also has a better DB group and better pass Rush than Houston to combat their Air attack. If the Vikes are expecting a Houston rematch they are going to be dismayed.
I’m mainly hoping Jordan plays. He will burn them for being greedy in the Pass Rush.
Keep in mind our league leading rushing offense includes 114 yards from Malik Willis. Somehow I doubt Love would have that many. If Love starts our rushing offense takes a hit. Certain teams run near the top of the rushing category every year because they have running QBs. If a mobile QB breaks a long one on a busted play or simply takes off the teams rushing offense benefits where teams with a statue at QB rely solely on their RBs.
As usual, the Vikings fans are shooting off their mouths about the game already. I’m envisioning a close game and probably be a shootout at the end. I hope JLove has the great game he is capable of and both, the defense and offense play well. Go Pack!!
The more I ponder this game the more I think we should go in with Malik. The Vikings can’t stop the #1 Rushing Offense and it’s not because they can’t just throw 9 in the box. Malik Willis proved last week that if you do that? He’ll punish you in the intermediate Pass. Tennessee was one of the best ranked Run Defenses just last week. They dropped hard after we demolished them. It was an embarrassment level beating. I heard all week about TN Defense this TN Defense that and I almost bought into it. We didn’t just win. We manhandled the Tennessee Run Defense. I think we’re #1 by a mile with Malik.
The Pass is an area that Minnesota has NOT faired well. IF they commit to the Run? They will be ultra susceptible to getting burned. Its not a gamble I would want to make if I were MN. IF they overcommit to either Run or Pass? I think we beat them by 2 scores.
Malik Willis has earned this Start. 2-0 was not a fluke. It should’ve been 2-0 with 2-3 Score wins. We gifted 10 points to Indy and that Titans game was over after our last FG. We coasted and We still beat them by 16
The Pass is an area that Minnesota has NOT faired well. IF they commit to the Run? They will be ultra susceptible to getting burned. Its not a gamble I would want to make if I were MN. IF they overcommit to either Run or Pass? I think we beat them by 2 scores.
Malik Willis has earned this Start. 2-0 was not a fluke. It should’ve been 2-0 with 2-3 Score wins. We gifted 10 points to Indy and that Titans game was over after our last FG. We coasted and We still beat them by 16
A big reason Houston lost to the Vikings is they were 1-dimensional and couldn’t use RPO. they lost both RB’s. Josh Jacobs has rushed for more yards in 2022 than Cam Akers (3.9 career avg) has in 6 seasons combined.
In Week 2, SF rushed 25X 102 yards or 4.1 per. I think we can top that. 35X4.5 150+ area? I’m giving Minni some props here. SF49er Jordan Mason ran 20 X 100 yards for 5.0 with a 23 long on the Road in Minni. We can top that at Lambeau.
Who else did MN play? The Giants? Devin Singletary has never cracked 900 yards in his career. Him and Daniel Jones are nowhere close to Jacobs, Wilson and Malik. If they rushed for 75 we can crack 150
In Week 2, SF rushed 25X 102 yards or 4.1 per. I think we can top that. 35X4.5 150+ area? I’m giving Minni some props here. SF49er Jordan Mason ran 20 X 100 yards for 5.0 with a 23 long on the Road in Minni. We can top that at Lambeau.
Who else did MN play? The Giants? Devin Singletary has never cracked 900 yards in his career. Him and Daniel Jones are nowhere close to Jacobs, Wilson and Malik. If they rushed for 75 we can crack 150
MN is 3rd in the league in scoring at 28.3 ppg. If they score 28 on the Pack I think they win. In the same respect, Green Bay is at 25 ppg, which is nothing to sneeze at. Some might say it is a push here. 3 points goes to the home team and last I looked the Pack is -2.5. So, again, push on the total points. I believe it is going to come down to the defensive side of the ball. I'm not sure how MN is doing it with their roster, but they are ranked #2 in the league only giving up 10 ppg. The Pack is giving up 19.3. The one thing I would say is that MN is in the middle of the league for yards given up. Meaning, you can move the ball on them. Redzone TD's will be big. As much as I want the Narv Dawg to eat, we can't settle for Redzone FGs. Lastly, Green bay is #1 in the league right now at takeaways. Now, MN is leading the league in sacks and they are right behind GB in INTs.
Everything I'm reading says this is going to be a close game. I'm hopeful that Green Bay can have a good showing at home, but MN does travel well to this game. It will probably be 1/3 MN fans at this game. Hard to predict, but I don't see the Pack pulling this one off. As much as I thought MN was smoke and mirrors I actually think they are legit. I don't think Super Bowl worthy, but definitely a playoff team. I'm saying MN 27 Pack 18.
Everything I'm reading says this is going to be a close game. I'm hopeful that Green Bay can have a good showing at home, but MN does travel well to this game. It will probably be 1/3 MN fans at this game. Hard to predict, but I don't see the Pack pulling this one off. As much as I thought MN was smoke and mirrors I actually think they are legit. I don't think Super Bowl worthy, but definitely a playoff team. I'm saying MN 27 Pack 18.
My biggest concern would be JLove shaking off some rust in the beginning and having to play catch-up as a result. If Green Bay gets off to a fast start and Hafley can turn the dogs loose against Darnold I like our chances.
This is a tough one for me to predict. I have been unable to watch any of our games, only highlights, so I haven't seen enough to make an educated guess. MN has looked good. Jones has really injected a lot into their offense. Darnold has been rejuvenated. Our new D will be tested for sure. Winning this game is going be a challenge.
The Packers are going to have to play almost flawless football. If Love plays the OL going to have be sharp and steady because don't think for a moment that MN won't be going for his legs.
ML has to keep using the run game even if it's not working initially.
I hope Love is not rusty.
I am hopeful that the D can get after Darnold. Who would have thought that he would flourish in this offense?
I honestly don't know who is going to win this one. I give the Packers a slight edge because they are at home.
ML has to keep using the run game even if it's not working initially.
I hope Love is not rusty.
I am hopeful that the D can get after Darnold. Who would have thought that he would flourish in this offense?
I honestly don't know who is going to win this one. I give the Packers a slight edge because they are at home.
I'm still not sold on Darnold at all. If Hafley's D is anything like the last 2 weeks, we cruise.
Sounds like Darnold suffered a knee bruise on Sunday. Sounds like they are expecting him to play, but hopefully it will slow him down a bit. Another 8-9 sack game would be welcomed.
I'm curious to see how Justin Jefferson does this week. Interestingly it's been somewhat feast or famine for him vs the Packers for his career. By my count he has faced us 7 times...
9/13/2020 (43-34 Packers) - 3 targets, 2 receptions, 26 yards, 0TD
11/1/2020 (28-22 Vikings) - 4 targets, 3 receptions, 26 yards, 0 TD
11/21/2021 (34-31 Vikings) - 10 targets, 8 receptions, 169 yards, 2 TD
1/2/2022 (37-10 Packers) - 11 targets, 6 receptions, 58 yards, 0 TD
9/11/2022 (23-7 Vikings) - 11 targets, 9 receptions, 184 yards, 2 TD
1/1/2023 (41-17 Packers) - 5 targets, 1 reception, 15 yards, 0 TD
12/31/2023 (33-10 Packers) - 10 targets, 5 receptions, 59 yards, 0 TD
More or less two monster games, two "meh" games, and three games as basically a non-factor...
This year though he's averaging through three games 7 targets, 5 rec, 90 yards, and 1TD per game... (of course, these "averages" at this point in the season are going to be preeeeeetty heavily skewed by him having a 97-yard TD rec, lol)
As long as we can avoid him bagging another 97-yd TD against us or having one of those "monster" games like above, I'd feel decent..
9/13/2020 (43-34 Packers) - 3 targets, 2 receptions, 26 yards, 0TD
11/1/2020 (28-22 Vikings) - 4 targets, 3 receptions, 26 yards, 0 TD
11/21/2021 (34-31 Vikings) - 10 targets, 8 receptions, 169 yards, 2 TD
1/2/2022 (37-10 Packers) - 11 targets, 6 receptions, 58 yards, 0 TD
9/11/2022 (23-7 Vikings) - 11 targets, 9 receptions, 184 yards, 2 TD
1/1/2023 (41-17 Packers) - 5 targets, 1 reception, 15 yards, 0 TD
12/31/2023 (33-10 Packers) - 10 targets, 5 receptions, 59 yards, 0 TD
More or less two monster games, two "meh" games, and three games as basically a non-factor...
This year though he's averaging through three games 7 targets, 5 rec, 90 yards, and 1TD per game... (of course, these "averages" at this point in the season are going to be preeeeeetty heavily skewed by him having a 97-yard TD rec, lol)
As long as we can avoid him bagging another 97-yd TD against us or having one of those "monster" games like above, I'd feel decent..
I know you guys will think I’m nuts (or maybe that’s already established!).
MN is ranked too high. Except a few sites I see them at #11 or #12? I think that’s pretty accurate.
Yes, they are playing above expectations I’d agree. We have to look closer at those games.
-They caught a stumbling SF49ers at US Bank by 6 points
- They caught the Texans with absolutely ZERO Running game missing both RB’s and just T’d up against the Pass.
-their most impressive Win was against the lackluster Giants performance with Daniel Jones multiple INT’s. It was a solid Win, but hardly enough to overthrow GB beating Indy with a backup that’s been here 2 weeks. IF anything that’s more impressive especially after we backed it up on the Road and pummeled TN.
I’m not saying the Vikings are bad, so don’t spin this. I’m saying the Vikings are Not a top 3 Team like I’m seeing some say. They are more 2-1 strength early on. I do give them respect for capitalizing on others mistakes earlier in the season. They are a top 12 team. GB is easily a Top 10 team playing with Malik or a top 6-8 Team With Love.
The only thing that gives me reservations about predicting a solid win is Love’s possible lack of mobility. It almost makes me want to rest him 1 more week. Plus we need to reduce the double digit flags it’s costing us
3-7 points per contest.
MN is ranked too high. Except a few sites I see them at #11 or #12? I think that’s pretty accurate.
Yes, they are playing above expectations I’d agree. We have to look closer at those games.
-They caught a stumbling SF49ers at US Bank by 6 points
- They caught the Texans with absolutely ZERO Running game missing both RB’s and just T’d up against the Pass.
-their most impressive Win was against the lackluster Giants performance with Daniel Jones multiple INT’s. It was a solid Win, but hardly enough to overthrow GB beating Indy with a backup that’s been here 2 weeks. IF anything that’s more impressive especially after we backed it up on the Road and pummeled TN.
I’m not saying the Vikings are bad, so don’t spin this. I’m saying the Vikings are Not a top 3 Team like I’m seeing some say. They are more 2-1 strength early on. I do give them respect for capitalizing on others mistakes earlier in the season. They are a top 12 team. GB is easily a Top 10 team playing with Malik or a top 6-8 Team With Love.
The only thing that gives me reservations about predicting a solid win is Love’s possible lack of mobility. It almost makes me want to rest him 1 more week. Plus we need to reduce the double digit flags it’s costing us
3-7 points per contest.
Again a win is a win but I remember talking to a buddy shortly after that MIN-SF game and talking about how if you just looked at the stats you'd have a real hard time believing SF lost, too.
SF had 24 first downs, MIN had 17. Dead even in total yards. Even in turnovers. MIN was penalized more. SF had nearly 10 more minutes TOP (34:48 - 25:12). But MIN 7/12 on 3rd down while SF 2/10.
SF had 24 first downs, MIN had 17. Dead even in total yards. Even in turnovers. MIN was penalized more. SF had nearly 10 more minutes TOP (34:48 - 25:12). But MIN 7/12 on 3rd down while SF 2/10.
Hard to win games when you only convert 20% of your 3rd downs. That was one area on Sunday, at least in the 1st half, that the Packers offense was pretty special. Even on some long 3rd downs, they found a way to get a 1st down.
Right now the Packers are 8th in the NFL in 3rd down conversions (42.86%). Not much of a surprise, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are 1st, converting 56.76% of their 3rd downs. The Queens are 3rd @ 45.71%
Right now the Packers are 8th in the NFL in 3rd down conversions (42.86%). Not much of a surprise, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are 1st, converting 56.76% of their 3rd downs. The Queens are 3rd @ 45.71%
Not that I am admitting defeat. But just covering all scenarios. IF The Vikings were to show up and win, we’d go 2-2. I can still see is splitting games with Detroit and MN. I can also see sweeping Chicago. That could really turn into a 3-3 Division record, which isn’t that out of the ordinary as far as everyone predicting before Regular season.
We are currently 2-1 if we added 3-3
That’s 5-4 with these other 8 outside NFC North games ahead.
@ Rams L
Cardinal at Home W
Texans at Home W
@ Jacksonville W
49ers @ Home L
Dolphins @ Home W
@ Seahawks Split Win between these
Saints @ Home Split W between these
I can still see projecting a 10-7 record and likely Postseason Visit
The Green Bay Packers return to Lambeau Field to take on the Minnesota Vikings.
Green Bay has won two of the last three and three of the last five home games against the Vikings.
The Packers have scored 30-plus points in five of the last eight games vs. Minnesota.
Overall, the Packers have won six of the last 10 meetings.
In each of the last five games between the two teams, the scoring margin has been 14-plus points, including 23-plus points in three contests. It is the most consecutive games in the series decided by 14-plus points, surpassing four-game streaks from 1961 to 1962 and 1990 to 1991 (STATS). Prior to that five-game stretch, six of the seven games were decided by single digits, including a tie.
The two teams have split the regular-season series each of the past four seasons, marking the longest stretch in series history.
Since realignment in 2002, the Packers (12) and Vikings (five) have accounted for 17 of the 22 NFC North titles.
Of the past 43 regular-season meetings between the teams, 25 of those games have been decided by seven points or less.
Through 127 meetings, which includes two postseason contests (1-1), the Packers hold a 66-58-3 edge over the Vikings in the all-time series.
The Packers 65 regular-season wins over Minnesota are the most by any team against the Vikings (Chicago ranks No. 2 with 57 wins).
Since 2000, the Packers are 28-18-2 (.604) in regular-season contests versus the Vikings.
Under Head Coach Matt LaFleur, the Packers are 6-4 against the Vikings and have scored 21-plus points in eight of the 10 contests.
Green Bay's six wins over Minnesota since 2019 are the most in the NFL.
LB Preston Smith registered three sacks and two forced fumbles against Minnesota last season. Smith has posted six sacks in the last six games against the Vikings. Smith has 8.5 sacks against Minnesota, the most he has against any single opponent.
DL Kenny Clark has posted a sack in two of the last three contests against the Vikings. Clark has eight sacks against Minnesota, the most against any single opponent.
Among active players, Smith (8.5) and Clark (8.0) rank No. 1-2 for the most sacks against the Vikings.
WR Jayden Reed posted 10 catches for 172 yards (17.2 avg.) and two TDs last season in two games versus Minnesota, becoming the first NFL player to record 10-plus catches, 150-plus receiving yards and multiple TD catches against the Vikings as a rookie.
It is the first time the Packers do not play an NFC North foe until Week 4 or later since 2017 (Week 4 vs. Chicago).
The Vikings are the only NFC North opponent the Packers play in the first eight games, tied for the fewest since realignment in 2002 with 2012 and 2015.
Under LaFleur, the Packers have started 2-1 or better every season. Green Bay joins Buffalo as the only NFL teams to start 2-1 or better in each of the past six seasons (2019-24).
Green Bay has won two of the last three and three of the last five home games against the Vikings.
The Packers have scored 30-plus points in five of the last eight games vs. Minnesota.
Overall, the Packers have won six of the last 10 meetings.
In each of the last five games between the two teams, the scoring margin has been 14-plus points, including 23-plus points in three contests. It is the most consecutive games in the series decided by 14-plus points, surpassing four-game streaks from 1961 to 1962 and 1990 to 1991 (STATS). Prior to that five-game stretch, six of the seven games were decided by single digits, including a tie.
The two teams have split the regular-season series each of the past four seasons, marking the longest stretch in series history.
Since realignment in 2002, the Packers (12) and Vikings (five) have accounted for 17 of the 22 NFC North titles.
Of the past 43 regular-season meetings between the teams, 25 of those games have been decided by seven points or less.
Through 127 meetings, which includes two postseason contests (1-1), the Packers hold a 66-58-3 edge over the Vikings in the all-time series.
The Packers 65 regular-season wins over Minnesota are the most by any team against the Vikings (Chicago ranks No. 2 with 57 wins).
Since 2000, the Packers are 28-18-2 (.604) in regular-season contests versus the Vikings.
Under Head Coach Matt LaFleur, the Packers are 6-4 against the Vikings and have scored 21-plus points in eight of the 10 contests.
Green Bay's six wins over Minnesota since 2019 are the most in the NFL.
LB Preston Smith registered three sacks and two forced fumbles against Minnesota last season. Smith has posted six sacks in the last six games against the Vikings. Smith has 8.5 sacks against Minnesota, the most he has against any single opponent.
DL Kenny Clark has posted a sack in two of the last three contests against the Vikings. Clark has eight sacks against Minnesota, the most against any single opponent.
Among active players, Smith (8.5) and Clark (8.0) rank No. 1-2 for the most sacks against the Vikings.
WR Jayden Reed posted 10 catches for 172 yards (17.2 avg.) and two TDs last season in two games versus Minnesota, becoming the first NFL player to record 10-plus catches, 150-plus receiving yards and multiple TD catches against the Vikings as a rookie.
It is the first time the Packers do not play an NFC North foe until Week 4 or later since 2017 (Week 4 vs. Chicago).
The Vikings are the only NFC North opponent the Packers play in the first eight games, tied for the fewest since realignment in 2002 with 2012 and 2015.
Under LaFleur, the Packers have started 2-1 or better every season. Green Bay joins Buffalo as the only NFL teams to start 2-1 or better in each of the past six seasons (2019-24).
It’s a must win game. You can’t go back 2.5 games in the divisional standings. Love needs to be sharp and better than he was in the opener but I’m not expecting him to be.
What I do expect is the same intensity from the defense we have had these last two games and their propensity to create turnovers that we have seen all season. They got to smack around bad teams the last two weeks. This Vikings team is shockingly not bad.
I do expect LaFleur to have to have a ton worked out again to protect his QBS but Love has to make the throws. He did not do that against the Eagles.
What I do expect is the same intensity from the defense we have had these last two games and their propensity to create turnovers that we have seen all season. They got to smack around bad teams the last two weeks. This Vikings team is shockingly not bad.
I do expect LaFleur to have to have a ton worked out again to protect his QBS but Love has to make the throws. He did not do that against the Eagles.
Think we are going to take them to the woodshed. Oline and front 7 are steamrolling people, Lafleur owns Brian Flores, and we are forcing turnovers left and right.
49ers and Houston both look like they are regressing so not making much of their start, they are who we thought they were and all that.
49ers and Houston both look like they are regressing so not making much of their start, they are who we thought they were and all that.
Whoomp! There it is! ^
always remember the chatter here that Rodgers audibled out of run plays, this sorta squashes those opinions some.
Jones would probably have close to another 2000 yards if not for McCarthy, course he may have gotten hurt more as well, if there is a knock, it's his durability, but what a explosive, elusive RB he was when healthy.
he'll be out to exact some revenge against us for sure, our defense will have to play up to that challenge
Jones would probably have close to another 2000 yards if not for McCarthy, course he may have gotten hurt more as well, if there is a knock, it's his durability, but what a explosive, elusive RB he was when healthy.
he'll be out to exact some revenge against us for sure, our defense will have to play up to that challenge
Love Aaron Jones although I still blame him for the 49ers loss in the 2021 Divisional Round. He keeps running full speed, we win that game and most likely win the Super Bowl that year.
Hmm. Just when I thought I couldn't possibly like Jones any more...
Jones was a big game choker. The meanest defenses could pop him and cause a turnover or make him play like he had a concussion...but idc...i love the guy. seems like a great human.
I wonder if he didnt show offseason interest in Dallas because of McCarthy. McCarthy was an idiot toward jones.
I wonder if he didnt show offseason interest in Dallas because of McCarthy. McCarthy was an idiot toward jones.
Stat: Sam Darnold’s Passer Rating Versus the Blitz – 158.3
No opponent in 2024 has been able to stymie Vikings’ quarterback Sam Darnold. He leads the NFL in passing touchdowns with eight, is second in passer rating at 117.3, and is fourth in yards per attempt at 8.4.
The first step in slowing down Darnold, at least when he’s playing for Kevin O’Connell, is to stop blitzing him. When teams have sent five or more rushers after Darnold, he’s made them pay. On 14 such dropbacks this season, Darnold is 10 of 12 for 189 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions, good enough for a passer rating of 158.3, which is perfect.
Stat: Vikings Defense Has 5 Sacks in Each of the First Three Games
The Vikings are the first team with five or more sacks in three straight games to begin a season since the 2001 New Orleans Saints.
One challenging aspect of mitigating the Vikings’ pass-rush scheme is the varying ways defensive coordinator is dialing up the pressure. Minnesota ranks second in sacks when sending five or more rushers, recording six in those scenarios. At the same time, the Vikings are tied for first in sacks with 10 when using four or fewer rushers.
Stat: 11 Penalties (Five False Starts) Against Houston on Sunday
Whether watching from home or in the stands, it was clear noise was a factor inside U.S. Bank Stadium on Sunday. The Texans were penalized 11 times on the day, compared to the Vikings’ five. The false starts and procedural penalties incurred by Houston only empowered the home crowd to make more noise and the Vikings’ defense to gain more confidence.
Houston’s offense did not score on any drive in which it incurred a penalty.
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Need to pressure w/ 4, need to protect, need to Get Louder at Lambeau!
No opponent in 2024 has been able to stymie Vikings’ quarterback Sam Darnold. He leads the NFL in passing touchdowns with eight, is second in passer rating at 117.3, and is fourth in yards per attempt at 8.4.
The first step in slowing down Darnold, at least when he’s playing for Kevin O’Connell, is to stop blitzing him. When teams have sent five or more rushers after Darnold, he’s made them pay. On 14 such dropbacks this season, Darnold is 10 of 12 for 189 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions, good enough for a passer rating of 158.3, which is perfect.
Stat: Vikings Defense Has 5 Sacks in Each of the First Three Games
The Vikings are the first team with five or more sacks in three straight games to begin a season since the 2001 New Orleans Saints.
One challenging aspect of mitigating the Vikings’ pass-rush scheme is the varying ways defensive coordinator is dialing up the pressure. Minnesota ranks second in sacks when sending five or more rushers, recording six in those scenarios. At the same time, the Vikings are tied for first in sacks with 10 when using four or fewer rushers.
Stat: 11 Penalties (Five False Starts) Against Houston on Sunday
Whether watching from home or in the stands, it was clear noise was a factor inside U.S. Bank Stadium on Sunday. The Texans were penalized 11 times on the day, compared to the Vikings’ five. The false starts and procedural penalties incurred by Houston only empowered the home crowd to make more noise and the Vikings’ defense to gain more confidence.
Houston’s offense did not score on any drive in which it incurred a penalty.
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Need to pressure w/ 4, need to protect, need to Get Louder at Lambeau!
I don't believe there will be a legitimate Packer fan at Lambeau on Sunday that will boo #33. If anything I bet we see a heck of a lot of #33 Packer Jerseys in the house that day.
Flores is one of those DC's that will lay it all on the line every week. He mixes it up every week too, not overly predictable. The pre-snap lineups that he shows, vs what the zone coverage they actually run post snap is crazy. The first time we met last year, Flores got us good, obviously on NYE last year, LaFleur and Love had him figured out. Going to be a fun one, which scheme gets the better of the other this time? Hopefully the 2nd to last time we face Flores and he goes somewhere in the AFC to be a HC next year.
It's not overly complicated, the Vikings' defense has thrived because they have gotten a lot of pressure/sacks on opposing QBs. Two games at home at in that environment help as well. Their one road test was against a bottom 3 team in the league. Greenard and Van Ginkel are underrated players, but this will be the best offensive line they have played to date (on the road). I'm not overly concerned about our protection and that should open things up in the passing game (I am assuming Love is playing) where I think GB could have a big day.
Defensively, the Vikings are soft on the interior OL. Bradbury has nightmares when he thinks about playing GB, and he and Ingram are bottom 10 in the league at surrendering pressures over the first 3 weeks of the season. Their OTs are much better, especially O'Neil. It will be a big day for Clark, Wyatt, Brooks and Co. on the inside. They need to generate pressure, and I imagine that if they do, the real Sam Darnold will show up.
I'm a pessimist by nature but I actually love this matchup for GB (assuming Love plays and is healthy to be himself out there). I like the Packers by 10+ when it's all said and done.
Defensively, the Vikings are soft on the interior OL. Bradbury has nightmares when he thinks about playing GB, and he and Ingram are bottom 10 in the league at surrendering pressures over the first 3 weeks of the season. Their OTs are much better, especially O'Neil. It will be a big day for Clark, Wyatt, Brooks and Co. on the inside. They need to generate pressure, and I imagine that if they do, the real Sam Darnold will show up.
I'm a pessimist by nature but I actually love this matchup for GB (assuming Love plays and is healthy to be himself out there). I like the Packers by 10+ when it's all said and done.
Here's the thing about the blitz versus the run game. When you catch them just right, it can be a huge play if you can can make one guy miss. And Jacobs does that. I think this is the game where he pops off a couple of big runs. Hopefully they don't all get called back again.
And this is the Aaron Jones redemption game. He's gonna bring it hard. I have nightmares about Quay trying to cover him in a zone or anywhere else.....
And this is the Aaron Jones redemption game. He's gonna bring it hard. I have nightmares about Quay trying to cover him in a zone or anywhere else.....
Will be a great test for MLF and this team - especially if Love is any sort of rusty (which we should probably expect).
Like most games, this one will come down to the trenches. If our DL plays like they just did vs TEN, we should be in this game at a minimum. If our OL keeps Love comfortable and give Jacobs and Wilson running lanes, we should be in this game at a minimum.
Limit negative plays and force them. MIN is a well-coached team so we'll need to be again as well.
Like most games, this one will come down to the trenches. If our DL plays like they just did vs TEN, we should be in this game at a minimum. If our OL keeps Love comfortable and give Jacobs and Wilson running lanes, we should be in this game at a minimum.
Limit negative plays and force them. MIN is a well-coached team so we'll need to be again as well.
We'll see, it's a feast or famine type defense. You get his blitz packages blocked up, he's really putting a lot of trust in a back end that's just middling at best talent wise. Truly is a tape battle, he'll have his arsenal to attack what LaFleur does, Matt will be grinding the tape on his blitz schemes to try and identify them pre-snap. Then of course you'll have unscouted looks on both sides. LaFleur vs Flores outweighs any player v player matchup to me.
While Jordan Mason has done a decent job in SF, he's still no Christian McCaffrey, and I'd say just looking at these last two games SF has proven to be less potent without him. The injured Rams beating them last week definitely shows they got some real vulnerabilities at the moment, though unfortunately they probably won't last given their usual late season surges.
Boy right now, I don't know how I feel about our QB situation going up against them. I know this would be the toughest test Malik Willis will have faced and yeah he would eventually lose one, but still he keeps on defying the naysayers and he's now proven he can throw the ball downfield quite well. Now Love is still the better passer at the end of the day, but as has been mentioned could be rusty with limited mobility.
Yeah I don't know but if I were the Vikes I might almost hope Love was back in hopes of feeling like his limited mobility might make it easier to pressure rather than have to face the Packers new mini Lamar Jackson, and no that is not an overstatement.
Boy right now, I don't know how I feel about our QB situation going up against them. I know this would be the toughest test Malik Willis will have faced and yeah he would eventually lose one, but still he keeps on defying the naysayers and he's now proven he can throw the ball downfield quite well. Now Love is still the better passer at the end of the day, but as has been mentioned could be rusty with limited mobility.
Yeah I don't know but if I were the Vikes I might almost hope Love was back in hopes of feeling like his limited mobility might make it easier to pressure rather than have to face the Packers new mini Lamar Jackson, and no that is not an overstatement.
On paper we have an elite offense (GB) vs an elite defense (MIN)
And an average offense (MIN) vs a good defense (GB)
And an average offense (MIN) vs a good defense (GB)
Packers lead all-time series 66-58-3. 65-57-3 in regular season, 1-1 in playoffs.
Last meeting: December 31, 2023. Packers defeated the Vikings 33-10 in Minneapolis. Jordan Love threw for 256 yards with 3 TD's and 0 INT's. Aaron Jones ran 20 times for 120 yards. Bo Melton had 6 catches for 105 yards and 1 TD. Jayden Reed had 6 catches for 89 yards and 2 TD's. Packers defense held the Vikings to 211 total yards.
This year, Sam Darnold has completed 67.9% of his passes for 657 yards with 8 TD's and 2 INT's. Justin Jefferson leads the Vikings with 14 catches for 273 yards and 3 TD's. Aaron Jones leads the Vikings with 228 rushing yards, averaging 5.4 YPC. Jones also has 97 yards receiving and 1 TD.
Offensively, Vikings rank 2nd in points scored, and 11th in yards gained. They are 13th in passing yards and 12th in rushing yards. Their passing rating of 117.3 ranks 2nd.
Defensively, Vikings rank 2nd in points allowed, and 16th in yards allowed. They are 28th in passing yards allowed and 3rd in rushing yards allowed. Vikings defense has allowed just 2 TD passes and has 5 INT's. They have allowed a passer rating of just 71.5 which ranks 5th. Their run defense has allowed just 3.6 YPC which ranks 3rd. Vikings defense leads the NFL with 16 sacks. Vikings have allowed red zone touchdowns 33% of the time which ranks 7th.
Last meeting: December 31, 2023. Packers defeated the Vikings 33-10 in Minneapolis. Jordan Love threw for 256 yards with 3 TD's and 0 INT's. Aaron Jones ran 20 times for 120 yards. Bo Melton had 6 catches for 105 yards and 1 TD. Jayden Reed had 6 catches for 89 yards and 2 TD's. Packers defense held the Vikings to 211 total yards.
This year, Sam Darnold has completed 67.9% of his passes for 657 yards with 8 TD's and 2 INT's. Justin Jefferson leads the Vikings with 14 catches for 273 yards and 3 TD's. Aaron Jones leads the Vikings with 228 rushing yards, averaging 5.4 YPC. Jones also has 97 yards receiving and 1 TD.
Offensively, Vikings rank 2nd in points scored, and 11th in yards gained. They are 13th in passing yards and 12th in rushing yards. Their passing rating of 117.3 ranks 2nd.
Defensively, Vikings rank 2nd in points allowed, and 16th in yards allowed. They are 28th in passing yards allowed and 3rd in rushing yards allowed. Vikings defense has allowed just 2 TD passes and has 5 INT's. They have allowed a passer rating of just 71.5 which ranks 5th. Their run defense has allowed just 3.6 YPC which ranks 3rd. Vikings defense leads the NFL with 16 sacks. Vikings have allowed red zone touchdowns 33% of the time which ranks 7th.
They are the best team going right now. I love the Pack but I think this would be a major win if we lose by 7.
That's saying a lot - a major win if we lose at home by a touchdown?
I will say this will be a good test for this team. It'll be interesting to see how Half-Assley's defense does against this balanced offense, and equally interesting to see how the offense handles the Minny defense. I have a feeling that it's going to be slow going for the offense this week, no matter who's at the controls. Love is likely to be rusty, and Willis has not seen a defense like this one yet.
It should be a good one. A good test for a young team during the early part of the season. We'll learn a lot, it's safe to say.
I will say this will be a good test for this team. It'll be interesting to see how Half-Assley's defense does against this balanced offense, and equally interesting to see how the offense handles the Minny defense. I have a feeling that it's going to be slow going for the offense this week, no matter who's at the controls. Love is likely to be rusty, and Willis has not seen a defense like this one yet.
It should be a good one. A good test for a young team during the early part of the season. We'll learn a lot, it's safe to say.
I think this Packers D is going to take this opportunity to make a statement.
They don't need to spy Darnold, so that should help the rush. On the other hand, the Vikings are in another league compared to the Titans and Colts. The numbers say stop Jefferson, Jones, and Nailor and it will be a good day for the Packers. But Houston and SF were not able to do so in their games, and they had to know this as well. This will be a huge test for the Packers.
Brian Flores's blitzes look complex, so it's going to be a challenge for either the very inexperienced Willis or the rusty Love to pick up on the chaos of pass rushers coming at them.
And that defense is going to have to tackle well, because you don't want Aaron Jones setting the tone for that offense since that would allow Darnold to pick them apart with Justin Jefferson.
And that defense is going to have to tackle well, because you don't want Aaron Jones setting the tone for that offense since that would allow Darnold to pick them apart with Justin Jefferson.
It's about time for a big game from Watson and for Jaire to rise to the challenge of taking on Jefferson.
SF hasn't won in MIN in a very long time. MIN beat SF at home last year too. Flores has a crazy scheme and Stroud was confused, it's an uncommon opponent.
It sounds like I'm making excuses, I suppose I am. They've beaten some quality opponents, but I can't help but feel like Flores' scheme starts to get figured out partway through the season, and with them being a division foe they won't be so strange to scout.
I don't like Malik Willis's chances against the Flores exotic blitz packages, I think he'd struggle to diagnose them. He is mobile enough to scramble around, but I'd expect a fall to Earth after the last two games.
I think Love is more likely to play and play well. He's had almost 3 weeks to recover, he's been practicing for a week now, and he has experience against this scheme (and has had time to prepare).
I thinkAddison and Hockensen are still out, which means they have Jefferson and AJones to worry about (which is not nothing). MIN has good OT but I don't know how good their IOL really is, and if Davante Wyatt is for real he could cause trouble. GB's safeties are lightyears better. Kevin O'Connell is a very good coach, MLF isn't too shabby either. Good matchup.
Unclear who will be more mobile - Darnold or Love - with QBs and their knees. If Love plays and the OL can protect him I think GB wins in a close one.
It sounds like I'm making excuses, I suppose I am. They've beaten some quality opponents, but I can't help but feel like Flores' scheme starts to get figured out partway through the season, and with them being a division foe they won't be so strange to scout.
I don't like Malik Willis's chances against the Flores exotic blitz packages, I think he'd struggle to diagnose them. He is mobile enough to scramble around, but I'd expect a fall to Earth after the last two games.
I think Love is more likely to play and play well. He's had almost 3 weeks to recover, he's been practicing for a week now, and he has experience against this scheme (and has had time to prepare).
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Unclear who will be more mobile - Darnold or Love - with QBs and their knees. If Love plays and the OL can protect him I think GB wins in a close one.
Had to end with this gem:
Packers good, Vikings bad. That is all.
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