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Post by Reignman on Oct 31, 2017 7:41:44 GMT -6

I've been saving up some bye stats for this special occasion. I've always wondered if teams had some sort of advantage with the extra time to prepare so I've done some research. The NFL introduced the bye week in 1990 and has used it every year since 1990. In 1993 they experimented with a 2 bye week schedule and thankfully it only lasted the one season. One bye week per season is already one too many IMO.

The following data excludes games where both teams had a bye the previous week. Oh and this is for the regular season only, so first round playoff byes are not included. I'll look at that separately.

          W    L  T    PCT   PF/G-PA/G   OFF/G-DEF/G GIVE/G-TAKE/G
       6655 6655 18  0.500   21.2-21.2   326.6-326.6   1.75-1.75 <--- league totals 1990-2016
       2943 2943 12  0.500   21.3-21.3   327.9-327.9   1.74-1.74 <--- league totals weeks 4 thru 11 (when byes typically occur)
        450  405  3  0.526   21.5-20.4   329.4-323.4   1.63-1.78 <--- teams after a bye

Breakdown by team:

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RK        W    L  T    PCT   PF/G-PA/G   OFF/G-DEF/G GIVE/G-TAKE/G
 1. PHI  21    7  0  0.750   23.2-17.4   330.4-306.6   1.32-2.21
    DEN  21    7  0  0.750   27.2-19.4   380.8-309.8   1.29-1.64
 3. DAL  19    9  0  0.679   24.4-16.9   347.6-274.6   1.68-1.68
 4. BAL  14    7  0  0.667   21.8-17.3   292.0-297.9   1.52-1.76
 5. MIN  18   10  0  0.643   20.9-21.6   348.0-317.9   1.57-1.71
    GRB  18   10  0  0.643   23.4-18.0   347.0-320.3   1.29-1.93
 7. CHI  17   11  0  0.607   22.3-20.0   328.4-309.0   1.64-2.36
    ATL  17   11  0  0.607   22.1-20.2   318.2-327.1   1.82-1.86
    BUF  17   11  0  0.607   20.7-17.8   339.3-317.2   1.43-1.82
    IND  17   11  0  0.607   25.1-20.9   351.8-350.3   1.32-1.68
11. KAN  16   12  0  0.571   21.6-16.5   310.4-317.1   1.00-1.96
    NEP  16   12  0  0.571   23.7-19.9   326.5-336.1   1.57-1.89
    MIA  16   12  0  0.571   21.8-19.3   327.0-300.0   2.21-1.89
    PIT  16   12  0  0.571   21.0-17.9   340.9-289.3   1.39-1.68
15. DET  15   13  0  0.536   18.7-22.3   293.9-330.8   1.93-2.25
    TEN  15   13  0  0.536   21.4-21.3   315.8-334.4   2.11-1.75
17. NOS  14   14  0  0.500   23.8-23.3   360.6-335.2   1.86-2.04
    JAX  11   11  0  0.500   21.6-21.6   335.9-340.8   1.36-1.59
19. LAR  13   14  1  0.482   24.8-22.1   380.0-326.1   1.61-1.79
20. LAC  13   14  0  0.481   19.9-19.8   311.2-319.4   1.44-1.63
21. HOU   7    8  0  0.467   17.9-19.9   334.3-344.1   1.27-1.20
22. ARZ  13   15  0  0.464   17.7-21.0   291.1-347.0   2.18-1.93
    NYJ  13   15  0  0.464   19.4-19.1   298.4-308.7   1.68-1.89
    WAS  13   15  0  0.464   19.5-21.0   326.6-322.4   1.96-1.71
25. CAR  10   12  0  0.455   19.8-21.6   336.8-311.7   2.14-1.46
26. TAM  12   16  0  0.429   20.9-22.4   334.4-343.4   1.86-1.89
    OAK  12   16  0  0.429   20.3-22.9   326.4-329.3   1.75-1.54
28. NYG  11   17  0  0.393   19.4-18.4   324.5-305.7   1.64-1.39
29. SFF  10   17  1  0.375   22.4-24.3   341.2-334.1   1.79-1.57
30. CLE   8   15  0  0.348   18.9-22.7   296.3-335.9   1.57-1.57
31. SEA   9   19  0  0.321   20.1-24.7   314.6-355.1   1.39-1.43
32. CIN   8   19  1  0.304   19.1-22.4   321.3-356.8   1.46-1.86

When the opponent had a bye:

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RK        W    L  T    PCT    PF/G-PA/G     OFF/G-DEF/G   GIVE/G-TAKE/G
 1. DAL  20    8  0  0.714   20.6-15.4   319.5-300.3   1.39-1.75
 2. DEN  20   14  0  0.588   23.0-21.0   353.9-310.1   1.71-1.29
 3. NEP  14   11  0  0.560   21.9-21.5   344.1-338.9   1.88-1.84
 4. IND  15   12  0  0.556   21.6-22.1   325.3-353.6   1.78-1.52
    TEN  15   12  0  0.556   23.7-21.9   348.9-342.1   1.78-1.74
 6. CHI  16   13  0  0.552   21.9-19.7   327.8-297.2   2.41-2.03
 7. GRB  17   14  0  0.548   23.4-18.7   328.2-318.8   1.55-1.97
 8. MIA  18   15  0  0.545   20.7-19.8   333.3-320.5   1.94-1.58
 9. BAL  13   11  0  0.542   23.0-19.8   327.6-310.1   1.29-1.63
10. KAN  15   13  0  0.536   20.0-19.1   317.1-323.8   1.32-1.39
11. BUF  17   15  0  0.531   18.0-21.3   306.9-308.8   1.81-1.69
12. NYG  12   11  0  0.522   21.8-20.6   327.7-326.4   1.30-1.74
13. MIN  15   14  0  0.517   18.9-20.6   336.3-327.5   1.90-1.31
14. CAR   8    8  0  0.500   19.7-23.3   309.6-347.1   1.75-1.75
    JAX  10   10  0  0.500   19.8-23.3   307.7-353.7   1.45-1.50
    PIT  12   12  0  0.500   21.3-18.0   344.0-281.3   1.33-1.88
17. PHI  13   14  1  0.482   21.7-20.4   329.8-331.3   1.68-1.89
18. CLE  13   14  0  0.481   17.4-20.3   303.4-327.4   1.78-1.44
19. NOS  11   12  0  0.478   24.1-24.7   349.7-359.7   2.00-1.61
20. ATL  15   18  0  0.455   21.2-25.1   317.2-379.4   2.09-1.91
21. DET  11   14  0  0.440   19.1-21.7   291.4-353.8   1.84-1.96
    NYJ  11   14  0  0.440   19.0-20.9   308.2-324.2   1.84-1.96
23. OAK  10   13  0  0.435   16.5-19.2   298.2-292.7   1.91-1.35
24. SEA  13   18  0  0.419   20.6-23.6   335.7-352.8   1.87-2.10
25. LAC  14   20  0  0.412   20.4-22.4   315.9-326.4   1.65-1.27
26. SFF  10   16  1  0.389   20.4-24.2   320.9-344.5   1.89-1.67
27. LAR  10   17  1  0.375   20.4-23.1   350.0-329.8   2.21-1.29
28. WAS  10   18  0  0.357   17.5-23.0   299.7-321.3   1.61-1.50
29. TAM   9   21  0  0.300   17.9-22.5   293.8-325.5   2.03-1.57
30. CIN   7   18  0  0.280   18.3-22.4   304.7-341.2   1.80-1.32
31. ARZ   6   16  0  0.273   17.5-26.2   296.8-365.3   2.32-1.68
32. HOU   5   14  0  0.263   22.3-24.0   369.1-321.2   1.63-1.00

Looks like there's a slight advantage for teams coming off of a bye when their opponent had to play the previous week.

Last Edit: Oct 31, 2017 7:45:06 GMT -6 by Reignman

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Post by Reignman on Oct 31, 2017 7:50:14 GMT -6

The Vikings yearly post bye game. We used to be good with that extra time to prepare, but we've lost 6 of our last 7. Washington is on deck.

YEAR COACH      WK  (W-L)    OPP (W-L)     SCORE
1990 Burns       8  (1-5) at GRB (2-4)  L  10-24    also had a bye
1991 Burns      15  (6-7) at TAM (2-11) W  26-24   
1992 Green       7  (4-1)    DET (1-4)  W  31-14    also had a bye
1993 Green       4  (1-1)    GRB (1-1)  W  15-13    also had a bye
1993 Green       8  (3-2) at CHI (3-2)  W  19-12    also had a bye
1994 Green       8  (4-2)    GRB (3-3)  W  13-10 ot also had a bye
1995 Green       6  (2-2)    HOU (2-3)  W  23-17 ot  
1996 Green       9  (5-2)    CHI (2-5)  L  13-15    also had a bye
1997 Green       9  (5-2) at TAM (5-2)  W  10-6     also had a bye
1998 Green       7  (5-0)    WAS (0-6)  W  41-7   
1999 Green      12  (6-4)    SDC (4-6)  W  35-27   
2000 Green       5  (3-0) at DET (3-1)  W  31-24   
2001 Green       9  (3-4) at PHI (4-3)  L  17-48   
2002 Tice        6  (0-4)    DET (1-3)  W  31-24    also had a bye
2003 Tice        7  (5-0)    DEN (5-1)  W  28-20   
2004 Tice        5  (2-1) at HOU (2-2)  W  34-28 ot  
2005 Tice        6  (1-3) at CHI (1-3)  L   3-28   
2006 Childress   7  (3-2) at SEA (4-1)  W  31-13   
2007 Childress   6  (1-3) at CHI (2-3)  W  34-31   
2008 Childress   9  (3-4)    HOU (3-4)  W  28-21   
2009 Childress  10  (7-1)    DET (1-7)  W  27-10   
2010 Childress   5  (1-2) at NYJ (3-1)  L  20-29   
2011 Frazier    10  (2-6) at GRB (6-0)  L   7-45   
2012 Frazier    12  (6-4) at CHI (7-3)  L  10-28   
2013 Frazier     5  (1-3)    CAR (1-3)  L  10-35   
2014 Zimmer     11  (4-5) at CHI (3-6)  L  13-21   
2015 Zimmer      6  (2-2)    KAN (1-4)  W  16-10
2016 Zimmer      7  (5-0) at PHI (3-2)  L  10-21

Last Edit: Oct 31, 2017 7:50:26 GMT -6 by Reignman

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Post by PapaScott on Oct 31, 2017 10:15:18 GMT -6

I think the Vikings catch a break as the Redskins limp out of Seattle and injury riddled face the rested Vikings. This is a game the Vikings need to steal. This is the biggest game of the season. The skins offensive line is already banged up and Griffen is licking his chops and Hunter, Barr are waiting in the weeds to out do Griffen in sacks.

Washington Redskins
Oct 31
Trent Williams (STARTING LEFT TACKLE) Status: Questionable
Position: Offensive Tackle

questionable
Brandon Scherff (STARTING RIGHT GUARD)Status: Questionable
Position: Guard

questionable
Ty Nsekhe Status:(BACKUP RIGHT TACKLE) Questionable
Position: Offensive Tackle

questionable
Spencer Long (STARTING CENTER)Status: Questionable
Position: Center

questionable
Bashaud Breeland Status: Questionable
Position: Cornerback

questionable
Oct 30
Jordan Reed Status: Questionable
Position: Tight End

Redskins coach Jay Gruden suggested Monday that he doesn't expect Reed (hamstring) to play in Sunday's game against the Seahawks, John Keim of ESPN.com reports.
Oct 29
T.J. Clemmings (BACKUP RIGHT TACKLE) Status: Questionable
Position: Offensive Tackle

Clemmings suffered an ankle injury in Sunday's contest against the Cowboys, Master Tesfatsion of the Washington Post reports.
Montae Nicholson Status: Questionable
Position: Safety

Nicholson injured his shoulder during Sunday's contest against the Cowboys.
Stefan McClure Status: Questionable
Position: Safety

McClure injured his hamstring in Sunday's game against the Cowboys, Brandon George of The Dallas Morning News reports.
Shawn Lauvao Status: Questionable
Position: Guard

Lauvao has been ruled out for the remainder of Sunday's game with a stinger.
Niles Paul Status: Questionable
Position: Tight End

Paul (concussion) is out for the remainder of Sunday's game against the Cowboys.
Oct 28
Mason Foster Status: Injury Reserve
Position: Linebacker

The Redskins officially placed Foster (shoulder) on injured reserve Saturday, Brian McNally of the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports.

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Post by Danchat on Oct 31, 2017 13:47:27 GMT -6

There's a decent chance the Redskins will be starting TJ Clemmings when we face them, so we should have the advantage health-wise thanks to the bye. It does make sense that teams coming off of a bye win a little more often than not because of injuries.

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Oct 31, 2017 7:50:14 GMT -6 Reignman said:

The Vikings yearly post bye game. We used to be good with that extra time to prepare, but we've lost 6 of our last 7. Washington is on deck.

This has been my impression. We have had some of our worst, most embarrassing performances under Frazier and Zimmer when coming off the bye.

I think the bye is stupid and unfair, kind of like changing our clocks twice a year. The unfairness evens out over many years but that's no consolation for the team that gets burned by it in a given year by getting their bye at the "wrong" time. How many teams have had their momentum stopped cold after the bye, like we did last year? I'll bet we weren't the only ones. How many losing streaks have been stopped cold by the bye? Probably not as many. These would be an indication of the pros/cons IMO perhaps as much as mere win/loss record for the game immediately following the bye.

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Post by Reignman on Nov 1, 2017 4:53:43 GMT -6

More evidence of the bye advantage. Favored teams win 66.6% of the time, but it jumps up to 71.3% after a bye when their opponent had no bye, and drops if the reverse is true. Teams after a bye are also favored more often 230 to 184. Not sure if the odds makers are factoring in the extra time to prepare or if it just worked out that way.

        overall record        record after a      record after opp
         when favored        bye when favored     bye when favored
        W    L  T    PCT      W   L  T    PCT      W   L  T    PCT
     2530 1269  7  0.666    164  66  0  0.713    120  63  1  0.655

Breakdown by team:

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NEP   157   38  0  0.805      9   3  0  0.750      4   3  0  0.571
IND   129   37  0  0.777      8   1  0  0.889      6   0  0  1.000
BAL   104   38  0  0.732      7   2  0  0.778      5   3  0  0.625
GRB   119   45  1  0.724      7   0  0  1.000      6   5  0  0.545
SEA   104   41  0  0.717      5   2  0  0.714      6   3  0  0.667
ATL    87   39  0  0.690      8   2  0  0.800      6   1  0  0.857
CHI    69   31  0  0.690      4   3  0  0.571      6   4  0  0.600
DEN   108   49  0  0.688      7   3  0  0.700      3   3  0  0.500
PIT   122   55  1  0.688      7   2  0  0.778      3   3  0  0.500
ARZ    63   29  1  0.683      5   0  0  1.000      1   0  0  1.000
SFF    69   33  1  0.675      3   2  0  0.600      2   4  0  0.333
KAN    76   37  0  0.673      3   3  0  0.500      2   2  0  0.500
LAC    89   44  0  0.669      6   5  0  0.545      6   4  0  0.600
CAR    82   41  0  0.667      6   3  0  0.667      4   1  0  0.800
HOU    63   32  0  0.663      3   1  0  0.750      2   0  0  1.000
DAL    94   49  0  0.657      5   2  0  0.714     11   1  0  0.917
NYG    89   47  0  0.654      7   2  0  0.778      2   2  0  0.500
TEN    68   37  0  0.648      5   3  0  0.625      5   4  0  0.556
PHI   103   56  1  0.647     10   2  0  0.833      6   3  1  0.650
NOS    94   52  0  0.644      6   1  0  0.857      6   2  0  0.750
MIN    75   42  0  0.641      5   2  0  0.714      3   1  0  0.750
NYJ    73   41  0  0.640      4   3  0  0.571      3   2  0  0.600
CIN    71   41  2  0.632      2   3  0  0.400      3   3  0  0.500
DET    52   32  0  0.619      6   1  0  0.857      1   0  0  1.000
BUF    55   36  0  0.604      5   2  0  0.714      5   3  0  0.625
TAM    57   41  0  0.582      4   3  0  0.571      2   0  0  1.000
MIA    54   41  0  0.568      1   1  0  0.500      1   1  0  0.500
JAX    43   33  0  0.566      4   3  0  0.571      2   1  0  0.667
WAS    47   36  0  0.566      4   1  0  0.800      2   1  0  0.667
LAR    46   38  0  0.548      4   1  0  0.800      0   0  0  0.000
OAK    36   30  0  0.545      2   3  0  0.400      2   1  0  0.667
CLE    32   28  0  0.533      2   1  0  0.667      4   2  0  0.667

        overall record        record after a      record after opp
         when underdog       bye when underdog    bye when underdog
     1269 2530  7  0.334     63 120  1  0.345     66 164  0  0.287

Breakdown by team:

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NEP    25   17  0  0.595      0   1  0  0.000      1   1  0  0.500
PIT    31   31  0  0.500      2   2  0  0.500      1   1  0  0.500
IND    31   41  0  0.431      1   1  0  0.500      1   3  0  0.250
DEN    34   45  0  0.430      1   0  0  1.001      3   4  0  0.429
PHI    33   44  0  0.429      1   0  0  1.001      1   5  0  0.167
GRB    31   43  0  0.419      3   2  0  0.600      2   2  0  0.500
CIN    47   75  1  0.386      3   4  1  0.438      0   4  0  0.000
DAL    36   59  0  0.379      3   4  0  0.429      0   5  0  0.000
LAC    39   64  0  0.379      1   1  0  0.500      0   6  0  0.000
MIA    53   89  0  0.373      5   6  0  0.455      2   9  0  0.182
NYG    38   64  0  0.373      0   4  0  0.000      3   4  0  0.429
NOS    35   59  0  0.372      1   5  0  0.167      1   4  0  0.200
ATL    41   71  1  0.367      1   1  0  0.500      2   9  0  0.182
CAR    41   71  1  0.367      2   3  0  0.400      3   2  0  0.600
SEA    33   60  1  0.356      1   5  0  0.167      1   4  0  0.200
MIN    41   79  1  0.343      2   5  0  0.286      1   6  0  0.143
KAN    41   82  0  0.333      3   4  0  0.429      4   6  0  0.400
TEN    44   89  0  0.331      0   4  0  0.000      3   4  0  0.429
WAS    50  102  1  0.330      2   7  0  0.222      2   9  0  0.182
ARZ    47   99  0  0.322      2   6  0  0.250      2   6  0  0.250
CHI    44   94  0  0.319      2   3  0  0.400      1   2  0  0.333
TAM    45   96  0  0.319      4   4  0  0.500      4   9  0  0.308
NYJ    39   85  0  0.315      4   4  0  0.500      2   5  0  0.286
BAL    30   66  0  0.313      2   1  0  0.667      2   2  0  0.500
BUF    45  103  0  0.304      2   4  0  0.333      2   8  0  0.200
HOU    43  100  0  0.301      3   5  0  0.375      2  11  0  0.154
JAX    48  114  0  0.296      2   4  0  0.333      5   4  0  0.556
OAK    49  123  0  0.285      2   6  0  0.250      2   6  0  0.250
SFF    38   96  0  0.284      0   7  0  0.000      1   4  0  0.200
LAR    41  114  1  0.266      2   6  0  0.250      5   5  0  0.500
CLE    44  133  0  0.249      3   7  0  0.300      3   6  0  0.333
DET    32  122  0  0.208      3   4  0  0.429      4   8  0  0.333

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Nov 1, 2017 4:39:29 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

Oct 31, 2017 7:50:14 GMT -6 Reignman said:

The Vikings yearly post bye game. We used to be good with that extra time to prepare, but we've lost 6 of our last 7. Washington is on deck.

Hmmmm, so you want to know how many win/loss streaks have ended because of a bye? I can do that, but what would we compare it to? Or how will we know a bye affects win/loss streaks more than a regular game or because of injury? And what do we consider a streak? 5 wins/losses in a row? 4? 6?

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Alright, so here's what I did. I counted up every win/loss streak of 5 or more games, then broke them down by when the bye occurred.

So we have total streaks, then "beg" means the streak began immediately after a bye. Then "mid" means a bye occurred in the middle of a win/loss streak. And "end" means the bye ended the streak. The Vikings were 5-0 when the bye occurred, but they were on a 8 game winning streak (won their final 3 in 2015).

       all streaks        winning streaks       losing streaks
str  tot beg mid end      tot beg mid end      tot beg mid end
 5   212  13  53  13      118  11  33   9       94   2  20   4
 6   127  11  38   7       66   4  18   5       61   7  20   2
 7    77   5  33   4       32   1  13   0       45   4  20   4
 8    60   3  30   8       26   0  15   4       34   3  15   4
 9    35   0  13   4       17   0   7   1       18   0   6   3
10    16   1  12   0        7   0   6   0        9   1   6   0
11    19   0  13   2        9   0   6   0       10   0   7   2
12     3   1   1   0        1   0   1   0        2   1   0   0
13     7   0   6   1        3   0   3   0        4   0   3   1
14     3   0   3   0        1   0   1   0        2   0   2   0
15     2   0   2   0        1   0   1   0        1   0   1   0
16     3   0   3   0        1   0   1   0        2   0   2   0
17     3   0   2   0        1   0   1   0        2   0   1   0
18     2   0   3   0        2   0   3   0        0   0   0   0
19     1   0   1   0        0   0   0   0        1   0   1   0
21     1   0   1   0        1   0   1   0        0   0   0   0
23     1   0   1   0        1   0   1   0        0   0   0   0
tot  572  34 215  39      287  16 111  19      285  18 104  20

There have been 879 total team byes since 1990. So 28.9% of all byes have interrupted a win/loss streak of 5 or more games if you don't include streaks that began after a bye. Pct ended is the percent of streaks ended because of a bye.

                                                 pct
                     tot  byes  beg  mid  end   ended
total streaks of 5+  572   288   34  215   39   15.4%
win streaks of 5+    287   146   16  111   19   14.6%
loss streaks of 5+   285   142   18  104   20   16.1%

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Nov 2, 2017 4:20:31 GMT -6 Reignman said:

       all streaks        winning streaks       losing streaks
str  tot beg mid end      tot beg mid end      tot beg mid end
 5   212  13  53  13      118  11  33   9       94   2  20   4
 6   127  11  38   7       66   4  18   5       61   7  20   2
 7    77   5  33   4       32   1  13   0       45   4  20   4
 8    60   3  30   8       26   0  15   4       34   3  15   4
 9    35   0  13   4       17   0   7   1       18   0   6   3
10    16   1  12   0        7   0   6   0        9   1   6   0
11    19   0  13   2        9   0   6   0       10   0   7   2
12     3   1   1   0        1   0   1   0        2   1   0   0
13     7   0   6   1        3   0   3   0        4   0   3   1
14     3   0   3   0        1   0   1   0        2   0   2   0
15     2   0   2   0        1   0   1   0        1   0   1   0
16     3   0   3   0        1   0   1   0        2   0   2   0
17     3   0   2   0        1   0   1   0        2   0   1   0
18     2   0   3   0        2   0   3   0        0   0   0   0
19     1   0   1   0        0   0   0   0        1   0   1   0
21     1   0   1   0        1   0   1   0        0   0   0   0
23     1   0   1   0        1   0   1   0        0   0   0   0
tot  572  34 215  39      287  16 111  19      285  18 104  20

                                                 pct
                     tot  byes  beg  mid  end   ended
total streaks of 5+  572   288   34  215   39   15.4%
win streaks of 5+    287   146   16  111   19   14.6%
loss streaks of 5+   285   142   18  104   20   16.1%

So it doesnt look to me like the bye has a dramatic effect on winning streaks. Its probably more pronounced if you're the Vikings. *lol*

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Nov 2, 2017 5:27:32 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner said:

So it doesnt look to me like the bye has a dramatic effect on winning streaks. Its probably more pronounced if you're the Vikings. *lol*

It's not all bad. In 2002 a 6 game losing streak for the Vikings ended at the bye. And in 2015 we began a 5 game win streak after the bye. But in 2011 a 6 game losing streak began after the bye. The universe is just trying to balance things out xD. Just imagine all the suffering the Packers have coming after Rodgers retires. The universe will have 30 years to make up for by then. They will become the new Browns and it'll be glorious.

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As many of you know, I dislike bye weeks, but they are here to stay.

It would be nice if the bye weeks were all over the middle four weeks of the season and if the whole division would have the bye week at the same time.

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Fun fact, of the 285 teams that had a 5+ game losing streak since 1990, the Vikings are the only team to still be above .500 after the streak was over. In 1997 they started 8-2 and then lost 5 straight before beating Indianapolis in the season finale. Oddly enough we still made the playoffs and beat the Giants 23-22 in a wild wildcard game where we trailed by 9 with under 2 minutes to go and won on a last second FG.

But the best way to end a winning streak is to play New England which has helped teams end 18 winning streaks of 5 or more games, Pittsburgh (17), Dallas (15), Green Bay (15), and Kansas City (14) are right behind them. Minnesota has done it 11 times. Kansas City has helped 3 teams end double digit winning streaks (2011 Packers (15), 2010 Chargers (11), and 1997 49ers (11)). Minnesota just 1 (1994 49ers (10)).

The best way to end a losing streak of 5 or more games is to play Washington (18), Arizona (16), Cleveland (15), and Detroit (15). Minnesota has helped 9 teams end losing streaks. Washington has also helped 4 teams end double digit losing streaks (2009 Lions (19), 2014 Texans (14), 1992 Cardinals (11), 2010 Rams (10)), Minnesota just 1 (2001 Lions (13)).

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Nov 2, 2017 5:58:50 GMT -6 Minniman said:

That's how they used to do it from 1990-1998, gave an entire division the same bye week. The Browns expansion in 1999 kind of threw a wrench into everything because that put the league at 31 teams and there had to be at least 1 bye team every week for the entire season. Don't know why they didn't return to that formula with the 2002 realignment.

In the spirit of fairness, I think teams should have the same bye week as their opponent following the bye.

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