How many more games do the Vikings win?

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How many more games do the Vikings win? Nov 18, 2023 4:50:08 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by ratsalad on Nov 18, 2023 4:50:08 GMT -6

Nov 15, 2023 9:32:50 GMT -6 Uncle said:

If the Vikings do manage to get a "W" in Denver this weekend to get to 7-4, then you'd have to think the expectation would be another "W" vs Chicago at home the following weekend right before the BYE to get to 8-4...

...and while the Division title would certainly still be "in-play" given that we still have 2 games with Detroit, the more probable path to the Playoffs is a Wild Card spot...

...and if the Vikings really want to win that Wild Card game, the "easiest" path to winning that is probably to get the 5th seed, primarily because the NFC South winner (which will undoubtedly have the lowest record among the NFC Division winners) will get the 4th seed and since the 5th seed plays the 4th seed on Wild Card weekend, playing the NFC South Division winner is probably the best path/chance the Vikings have in the Playoffs to advance. Regardless of who gets the #1 seed, winning @ Philly, @ SF or @ Dallas during Wild Card weekend will be the most difficult, but winning @ Atlanta, @ New Orleans or @ Tampa Bay should be a bit easier.

Knowing all that, if you look at the records of NFC teams who had the 5th seed (since the Playoff format shifted to 7 teams), the lowest win total was 11 wins:

2020: Tampa Bay was 5th seed at 11-5 (they eventually won Super Bowl)
2021: Arizona was 5th seed at 11-6 (started off 7-0 but collapsed in 2nd half; lost to #4 seed LAR in Wild Card Rd who won Super Bowl)
2022: Dallas was 5th seed at 12-5 (they beat 4th seed Tampa who was NFC South, but lost to SF during Divisional Rd)

So, to get to the 5th seed and give us the best chance of advancing to the Divisional Rd, we need to get to 11 wins, which means winning at least 5 out of our last 7 games, so the Vikings can only "afford" 2 more losses, or else they'll get a 6th or 7th seed and probably play @ Philly, @ SF or @ Dallas and have a lower chance at advancing.

Just win the division and worry about all that other stuff later. It's very winnable right now

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How many more games do the Vikings win? Nov 19, 2023 23:10:16 GMT -6 via mobile ratsalad and vikadam like this

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Post by VikingsBoss on Nov 19, 2023 23:10:16 GMT -6

I seriously thought the Vikings would finish 12-5 with Cousins. I will die on that hill. Dobbs had me believing that might still be possible...and I suppose it is.

Cincinnati has lost Burrow, and Detroit will likely be resting starters by Week 16, so...those were the three games I figured as the candidates for the one loss.

Then again, I didn't think there was a chance the Vikings lose tonight. Cousins or no, they are a better team than Denver and should have won. So, same scenario against Chicago, Las Vegas and Green Bay means they could legitimately lose any of those games as well.

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How many more games do the Vikings win? Nov 19, 2023 23:11:41 GMT -6

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Post by idavike on Nov 19, 2023 23:11:41 GMT -6

Nov 7, 2023 9:05:15 GMT -6 ball99 said:

sadly we will make a run and get stomped in the playoffs and get a worse draft pick because we beat a couple bad teams, but yay we make the playoffs.

yep, it's a weak schedule and that will give them just enough wins to get the Vikings the 21-24th range in the 2024 draft. The good news is that the QB's coming out, haven't played well lately, so there is still a chance for a QBOTF.

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How many more games do the Vikings win? Nov 20, 2023 11:48:58 GMT -6

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Post by Purple Pain on Nov 20, 2023 11:48:58 GMT -6

Tom Schreier: The Vikings Can't Escape the NFL's Middle Class

After losing to the Broncos on Sunday, the Vikings have five one-score losses – tied for most in the league with the Buffalo Bills, Los Angeles Chargers, and New England Patriots.

That’s not the kind of company you want to keep.

The Vikings have transformed since Week 1. Dobbs has taken over for Kirk Cousins after his Achilles injury. Dalton Risner has bolstered the offensive line, and Cam Akers was their most dynamic running back. Anthony Barr has returned! But turnovers continue to prevent them from reaching their potential. They lost the turnover battle to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles, and the Chargers and started 0-3.

As impressive as the Vikings were during their five-game winning streak, the San Francisco 49ers were the only good team they beat. The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, and Atlanta Falcons have losing records, and the New Orleans Saints are .500. That’s not to take away from how impressive Dobbs was in Atlanta or how they’ve reconstructed their roster in the middle of the season. But Minnesota is in the middle of a winnable stretch of games and has to take advantage. Therefore, it’s essential to keep that winning streak in perspective.

Monday night’s game against Chicago and the road games against the Las Vegas Raiders and Cincinnati Bengals following the bye concludes the winnable stretch of their schedule. They have to pick up W’s in their next three games to have a chance to earn a favorable playoff matchup. During the broadcast, Mike Tirico highlighted that the Vikings are playing the Detroit Lions in Weeks 16 and 18. Had Minnesota and Detroit won out entering their Week 16 matchup at U.S. Bank Stadium, the Vikings would have an opportunity to take the division and get home-field advantage in the playoffs. They still do if they don’t spiral after the loss in Denver.

The Vikings still can defend their NFC North title, but that becomes more difficult if they don’t take care of business in their next three games. Suppose Minnesota beats Chicago on Monday night, wins in Vegas, and beats the Joe Burrow-less Bengals. Then we’ll probably forget about Sunday’s loss in Denver at the end of the season. If anything, the win over San Francisco bought them some leeway to drop a game to the suddenly hot Broncos.

However, as it stands right now, the Vikings are 6-5 and stuck in the NFL’s middle class. Dobbsmania has been fun, and they’re in a better place than they were when they were 1-4 heading into Chicago. But they leave Denver hovering around .500 instead of building momentum heading into three winnable games. Turnovers killed them when Cousins was under center at the beginning of the season, and it continues to hurt them now. Whether or not they take care of the ball will determine how far they will go this year.

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How many more games do the Vikings win? Nov 20, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -6

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Post by Raptorman on Nov 20, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -6

Nov 20, 2023 11:48:58 GMT -6 Purple Pain said:

Tom Schreier: The Vikings Can't Escape the NFL's Middle Class

After losing to the Broncos on Sunday, the Vikings have five one-score losses – tied for most in the league with the Buffalo Bills, Los Angeles Chargers, and New England Patriots.

That’s not the kind of company you want to keep.

The Vikings have transformed since Week 1. Dobbs has taken over for Kirk Cousins after his Achilles injury. Dalton Risner has bolstered the offensive line, and Cam Akers was their most dynamic running back. Anthony Barr has returned! But turnovers continue to prevent them from reaching their potential. They lost the turnover battle to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles, and the Chargers and started 0-3.

As impressive as the Vikings were during their five-game winning streak, the San Francisco 49ers were the only good team they beat. The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, and Atlanta Falcons have losing records, and the New Orleans Saints are .500. That’s not to take away from how impressive Dobbs was in Atlanta or how they’ve reconstructed their roster in the middle of the season. But Minnesota is in the middle of a winnable stretch of games and has to take advantage. Therefore, it’s essential to keep that winning streak in perspective.

Monday night’s game against Chicago and the road games against the Las Vegas Raiders and Cincinnati Bengals following the bye concludes the winnable stretch of their schedule. They have to pick up W’s in their next three games to have a chance to earn a favorable playoff matchup. During the broadcast, Mike Tirico highlighted that the Vikings are playing the Detroit Lions in Weeks 16 and 18. Had Minnesota and Detroit won out entering their Week 16 matchup at U.S. Bank Stadium, the Vikings would have an opportunity to take the division and get home-field advantage in the playoffs. They still do if they don’t spiral after the loss in Denver.

The Vikings still can defend their NFC North title, but that becomes more difficult if they don’t take care of business in their next three games. Suppose Minnesota beats Chicago on Monday night, wins in Vegas, and beats the Joe Burrow-less Bengals. Then we’ll probably forget about Sunday’s loss in Denver at the end of the season. If anything, the win over San Francisco bought them some leeway to drop a game to the suddenly hot Broncos.

However, as it stands right now, the Vikings are 6-5 and stuck in the NFL’s middle class. Dobbsmania has been fun, and they’re in a better place than they were when they were 1-4 heading into Chicago. But they leave Denver hovering around .500 instead of building momentum heading into three winnable games. Turnovers killed them when Cousins was under center at the beginning of the season, and it continues to hurt them now. Whether or not they take care of the ball will determine how far they will go this year.

We have 5 one score wins as well. I like how he assumes that only part of our schedule is winnable. Really? Why play the game then?

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How many more games do the Vikings win? Nov 29, 2023 14:04:09 GMT -6 via mobile Danchat likes this

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Post by Funkytown on Nov 29, 2023 14:04:09 GMT -6

Since we can't beat Chicago, things look pretty bleak. But at least the bye and JJ's return give us a little hope.

December football is key. Let's see if we can start a streak the other way again!

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