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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 2, 2023 5:23:10 GMT -6 FSUVike likes this

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Mar 1, 2023 23:12:16 GMT -6 legendsofthenorth said:

Mar 1, 2023 21:57:18 GMT -6 Uncle said:

Not every player that gets a Combine invite will be working out, either because they will choose not to, or due to injury. I really wish the NFL would then invite some "snubs" to do workouts in their place because it could really help their Draft stock.

Here's a list of prospects that won't be working out at the 2023 Combine:

- Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia: declared a couple days ago he wouldn't work out but would do interviews; 30 min before he was set to go to the podium during media day for DL/LB's, he left because a warrant was issued for his arrest in Georgia. It remains to be seen if he'll be available for Georgia's Pro Day on 3/15.

- Bryce Young, QB, Alabama: he'll weigh-in and do some drills but he won't throw

- Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee: still recovering from torn ACL

- Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah: still suffering from a late-season back injury

- Travis Dye, RB, USC: still recovering from broken leg

- Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech: still recovering from broken foot suffered in November

- DeWayne McBride, RB, UAB: recovering from hamstring injury suffered during training

What are your thoughts on Hooker. He is the wildcard of this class. Is he worth trading up into the 2nd for?

personally, I don't like the fact he'll be 26 by the end of the coming season...his rookie year being at the age many players are getting their 2nd contract.....so given we know he'd need to sit a couple years, that's a tough one to swallow

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 2, 2023 14:27:30 GMT -6 Funkytown, OdinHammer, and 1 more like this

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Mar 1, 2023 23:12:16 GMT -6 legendsofthenorth said:

What are your thoughts on Hooker. He is the wildcard of this class. Is he worth trading up into the 2nd for?

Short answer: Hooker is a solid QB prospect, not an elite one, and not someone I would trade up for.

Longer answer...

I've written a bunch about Hooker before, and I've landed on the opinion that Hooker is a solid QB prospect: his best attributes are his accuracy (68%+ for the past 2 seasons at TN, and at least 63%+ from his VT days is solid for a college QB) and his ability not to turn the ball over (80 TD's to just 12 INT's for his career, and 58 TD's to just 5 TD's the past 2 years at TN). Both of those attributes will carry over well to the NFL. He's also solid in the athletic dept: has a solid arm and has solid athleticism...

...and because he's "solid" and not "elite" in any areas, combined with his age, I'm not sure how much more development he's going to get. I think with what he brings right now to the NFL, he can be a decent starting QB if there's talent around him, but I don't think he's going to be a "franchise" QB that can carry/elevate a team and his ceiling is probably something like Dak Prescott.

The two Georgia games in '21 and '22 really tell the story. From a "statistical" standpoint, he's dominated most everyone the past 2 seasons (even had great stats in the South Carolina game he tore his ACL), but the two lowest rated games in both seasons came against Georgia, a team that provides a sort of NFL defense "litmus test" for opposing offenses. He didn't play awful as he still had a 69% COMP in '22 and 64% COMP in '21, but he didn't do anything special, either. When Georgia HC Kirby Smart (known for his defenses) took away the deep balls and forced Hooker and the Volunteers offense to drive down the field and score, Hooker didn't have much success as he knows how to run Josh Heupel's offense, but once Plan A is defended, he wasn't able to move successfully to Plan B or C.

If the Vikings had a roster like the 49ers or Eagles and the outlook was that we would have that sort of roster for the next few seasons, there's a possibility there of taking Hooker to operate within a great system. But the Vikings don't have that type of roster at the moment and since I don't believe he'll elevate anyone else, I wouldn't trade up for him. He would make a fine QB2 if we had a bunch of extra Day 2 picks, but since we don't, I'm not trading away draft assets that will be used to hopefully get our roster up to that 49er/Eagles level first.

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Brandon Team Captain Enter your message here... Posts: 1,656 Likes: 1,778	NFL Combine 2023 Mar 2, 2023 17:57:35 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Brandon on Mar 2, 2023 17:57:35 GMT -6 I tuned in late, but it sounds like Nolan Smith from Georgia really shined bright.

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 2, 2023 19:47:50 GMT -6

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Man I was hoping to be able to watch the defensive players out there this weekend instead. I wasn't able to catch any of the drills today or tomorrow and I'm more interested in defense this year for the Vikings' needs.

I'll still be ecstatic to relax, throw a pot of coffee on, and watch some combine to see who pops - even if I can only watch offense this year. I've been driving in some NASTY weather for a few weeks and I'm a little exhausted at the moment.

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 2, 2023 22:27:50 GMT -6 via mobile

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Mar 2, 2023 19:47:50 GMT -6 OdinHammer said:

Man I was hoping to be able to watch the defensive players out there this weekend instead. I wasn't able to catch any of the drills today or tomorrow and I'm more interested in defense this year for the Vikings' needs.

I'll still be ecstatic to relax, throw a pot of coffee on, and watch some combine to see who pops - even if I can only watch offense this year. I've been driving in some NASTY weather for a few weeks and I'm a little exhausted at the moment.

I haven't had a chance to watch for several years, but don't they replay it a pretty fair amount? You might be able to catch it later?

This is the first year in a while I've got NFL network.

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 2, 2023 23:04:12 GMT -6 Funkytown, Danchat, and 1 more like this

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Day 1 Winners / Losers:

The 33rd Team: link
Winners: Bryan Bresee, Calijah Kancey, Byron Young (EDGE, Tennessee), Nolan Smith
Losers: DJ Dale, Andre Carter II, Mike Morris, Jalen Graham

CBS Sports: link
Winners: Calijah Kancey, Tyree Wilson (even though he didn't work out), Nolan Smith, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Zach Harrison (even though he didn't work out)
Losers: Tuli Tuipulotu, Mazi Smith (didn't work out)

TWSN: link
Winners: Gervon Dexter, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Zacch Pickens, YaYa Diaby
Losers: Brenton Cox Jr., Mike Morris, Andre Carter II

NFL.com: link
Winners: Adetomiwa Adebawore, Jack Campbell, Calijah Kancey, Nolan Smith, Byron Young (EDGE Tennessee)
Losers: Andre Carter II, Mike Morris, Jaquelin Roy, Drew Sanders (did not work out), Byron Young (DT Alabama)

Profootball Network: link
Winners: Nolan Smith, Jack Campbell, Calijah Kancey, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Moro Ojomo, Lukas Van Ness, Jalen Redmond, Zacch Pickens, Isaiah Land, Anfernee Orji
Losers: N/A (they didn't list any losers)

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 3, 2023 5:48:41 GMT -6 Brandon likes this

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Mar 2, 2023 22:27:50 GMT -6 Brandon said:

Mar 2, 2023 19:47:50 GMT -6 OdinHammer said:

Man I was hoping to be able to watch the defensive players out there this weekend instead. I wasn't able to catch any of the drills today or tomorrow and I'm more interested in defense this year for the Vikings' needs.

I'll still be ecstatic to relax, throw a pot of coffee on, and watch some combine to see who pops - even if I can only watch offense this year. I've been driving in some NASTY weather for a few weeks and I'm a little exhausted at the moment.

I haven't had a chance to watch for several years, but don't they replay it a pretty fair amount? You might be able to catch it later?

This is the first year in a while I've got NFL network.

NFL Network programming will either be live at the combine, shows talking about the combine, or replays from the combine....all combine all the time

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 3, 2023 13:53:53 GMT -6 via mobile Brandon and gophersturf10 like this

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Man, that Nolan Smith is one humble, smart and gregarious young man. Sign me up for him at #23 all day long.

Kancey has fantastic numbers but his short arms is what truly sets him apart from the Aaron Donald comparisons. Like true Baby T-Rex arms.

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 3, 2023 19:31:00 GMT -6 via mobile FSUVike likes this

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Mar 3, 2023 13:53:53 GMT -6 FSUVike said:

Man, that Nolan Smith is one humble, smart and gregarious young man. Sign me up for him at #23 all day long.

Kancey has fantastic numbers but his short arms is what truly sets him apart from the Aaron Donald comparisons. Like true Baby T-Rex arms.

I would be cool with that pick, Smith at 23.

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NFL Combine 2023 Mar 4, 2023 9:07:09 GMT -6 Funkytown likes this

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Day 2: Winners & Losers (DB's & ST's)

The 33rd Team: link
Winners: Deonte Banks, Sydney Brown, Darrell Luter, Jr., Christian Gonzalez
Losers: Jammie Robinson, Trey Dean III, Ji'Ayir Brown, Rashad Torrence II

NFL.com: link
Winners: Deonte Banks, Christian Gonzalez, Brandon Hill, Jartavius Martin, DJ Turner II
Losers: Emmanuel Forbes, Brandon Joseph, Clark Phillips III, Kelee Ringo, Devon Witherspoon (did not work out)

ProFootball Network: link
Winners: Julius Brents, Deonte Banks, Christian Gonzalez, Jakorian Bennett, Jartavius Martin, Jason Taylor II, Daniel Scott, DJ Turner II, Cory Trice, Sydney Brown
Losers: N/A (they didn't list any losers)

CBS Sports: link
Winners: Christian Gonzalez, Deonte Banks, Jartavius Martin, Jakorian Bennett, Julius Brents, Sydney Brown, DJ Turner II
Losers: Joey Porter, Jr., Christopher Smith II, Kelee Ringo

TWSN: link
Winners: Deonte Banks, DJ Turner II, Darius Rush, Sydney Brown, Jartavius Martin
Losers: Clark Phillips III, Brandon Joseph, Antonio Johnson

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