Post by Danchat on Apr 10, 2023 21:56:04 GMT -6
2019 - Kyler 4, Haskins 8, Lock 22, Jones 30. 1, 15, 42, 6. Don't remember if Jones got helium.
I had a 3rd round grade on Jones, but the Walterfootball crew were insistent that year that he was going top 10 regardless, so I fully expected Jones to land with the Giants early in the 1st round. But I guess the consensus was pretty low on him. Lock was pretty consistently thought of as a 1st rounder, if late, and he did tumble down further than expected.
Did teams suddenly figure out how to better evaluate QBs vs. the consensus in 2022? Were a bunch of teams just wrong this year? Could this trend continue?
Yeah, I think teams realized that this batch of prospects had a lot of red flags and teams poured praise for the QBs, hoping to draw the better prospects at other positions down the board. 2022 was certainly the first year where most everyone (draftniks) were wrong about where the QBs were going.
I think you're spot on in terms of boredom and it seems to occur mostly for those guys fringe first round ie late first or at least through the 2nd.
I didn't write that, BTW. I included the source, so I don't mean to take credit for that blurb.
I'd agree with this, but plenty of teams are bringing him in for top 30 evaluations too...
Eh, that doesn't mean anything. The Vikings are bringing in 3 Minnesota players for top 30 picks who are expected to go on Day 3, and there are plenty of other guys with Day 2/3 ratings getting a bunch of visits. There isn't a strong correlation between visits and who is getting drafted to which team.
this Saturday evening when I was swapping information — or trying to, anyway — with a well-connected operative from a team with a pick in the top 12. “I don’t know what’s happening in front of us,” he said. “Anything.”
I think this uncertainty is being caused by the lack of consensus knowledge of what will happen after pick 4 or 5. Once the top 3 QBs go, nobody is quite sure who goes next - do teams start going after the tackles, the CBs, the edge rushers?
Hooker could have parallels to Daniel Jones (he played at Duke? they suck), but may have some translatable traits.
If anything I think Levis is a great comparison to Jones as a prospect, both played in offenses that had nothing at OL/WR and have plus mobility and arm strength. Levis is quite a bit older.
I think Hooker is more likely to follow the Drew Lock/Jalen Hurts pattern compared to Daniel Jones. Teams will remember how the Eagles wisely snagged Hurts in the 2nd and will scoop him up there, while being able to spend a 1st on a starter at another position who won't make it to the 2nd round. Losing the 5th year option hurts, but the pattern of taking a QB at the end of the 1st to get that 5th year option hasn't happened very often outside of Bridgewater and Jackson.
Ok, been grinding on WR @ #23. There's a lot to digest. Minnesota will play in more 11 Personnel (2 TEs), so just how impactful would a true WR2 be? On the flip side, even if Kevin goes 180 and leads the League in that formation he's still going to be running at least a third or more snaps of 3 WR sets.
Thoughts on Quentin Johnston? He seems to be one of the few guys who fits your profile, and now he's trending towards being available at #23. Heck, with what I've read on him lately, I think he might slip to the 2nd... and about a month ago I thought he was the first WR getting drafted.