Post by ratsalad on Mar 26, 2022 15:19:57 GMT -6
Dude, that makes ZERO sense. The defense sucks, that isn't gonna change in one offseason. Kirk Cousins has sucked his whole career. Only dumbass around here is the person who judges Cousins by his numbers and not his on field play. None of this is a knee jerk reaction, I've seen it all before and history will repeat itself. The Wilfs want to win now and the team sucks, and unless they draft like 3 or 4 HOF players they aren't anywhere near it. Overestimation of this team's roster is everywhere. They. Are. Not. That. Good. It's Justin Jefferson and a whole lot of nothing else out there. Thielen is in his 30s, to assume he will keep playing well is foolish. He's gonna slow down sooner than later. Dalvin Cook is injury prone and has lost a step. Conklin was our only good TE, and he's gone, so there's another downside. The offensive line is okay, but even when Kirk has had time (and he's had plenty in several games, I tire of hearing the OL sucks too much so it's not Kirks fault) he still disappoints. There is no reason to be optimistic about anything at this point. The team is trying to win now instead of rebuild and they're going to get bit in the ass for it. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Some people will find reasons to believe that's not true, and then some people will just admit ownership f*cked up again and now we're gonna have to watch more sh*tty to mediocre football before something else comes along that maybe gives them a chance to do the right thing again, and then they'll do the wrong thing like always, and we'll be right back here again!
Seen it too many times man, I know how these guys work.
Kirk's been on a bipolar Snyder team and a curmudgeonly Zimmer team to date, but is getting the first real philosophical backing, from the top, that he's ever had. In Washington, he was second banana and somewhat punished for the failures of RGIII. In Minnesota, he OUTPLAYED HIS LINE (you can babble all you like, it was rated in the 20s for most of a decade...) as well as his offensively-stunted coach for 4 years...despite said coach admittedly barely even working with him.
He takes very good care of himself, and should be in a position to seize his prime years. Yes, he still has to do it, nothing is guaranteed...but he's produced even when it seems like his own coach doesn't want him to. Do you honestly think he'll taper off in a more positive situation?
Yes, Thielen is older and will fall off...and I'm leery about RB mileage in general, Cook or otherwise. That said, the OL has good, young tackles...and I have more faith in this regime repairing the middle of the line than Zimmer/Spielman, who failed for consecutive years. We have JJ, Osbourn is coming up, Smith Jr is finally back, Mattison, etc etc etc. We also have an offensively-minded HC who will get, and develop, the players he needs.
I've watched this team since the 70s, and one place we deeply disagree is how hard players play for each other. I think that Zimmer's mindset was essentially poisonous, particularly to younger players. The new people, with better communication and less mulish mentalities, can both attain better mindsets and react more quickly than ol' man Zimmer was ever going to.
We'll find out in September, but dude...blowing off Cousins, despite his constant production, makes your "argument" look much more like "agenda". Very few QBs keep turning in the yards/scores for consecutive years...and all the "stat padding" stupidity should drop dead when one remembers that Kirk doesn't call his own plays.
I would like to be wrong but it has yet to happen when it comes to this team.
Osborn is a WR3, he's nothing impressive. Smith Jr isn't proven. From what I can tell, we disagree on Cousins usefulness. We've had 10 years to see Cousins and who he is and what he does. He's just another Alex Smith, Andy Dalton, Brad Johnson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, etc. A guy who will never win a championship but can start at QB. There's no point in starting a QB who can't win your team a championship. Period.
Vikings OL isn't good. But I've watched plenty of games where Cousins has time to do things and he checks it down because he's a p**** or he can't read the defense. He only throws deep when it's obvious which tells me he's too stupid to understand whether he can throw them open or not. Or he's just a p**** and doesn't want to risk making a mistake so he makes the safe throw.
There's plenty of professions where being safe and cautious is a good idea, and sometimes that's true in pro sports too, but you can't do it 100%. You gotta take chances.
... and neither is this Chris guy.
