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The Z-Fense Dec 31, 2017 12:02:25 GMT -6

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Dec 30, 2017 21:28:23 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

How does the Vikings’ No. 1 ranked defense compare to (recent) history’s best? by Matthew Coller

Heading into this week’s game, the Vikings rank 10th in single-season yards allowed since 2000. If they give up fewer than 300 yards, Mike Zimmer’s defense will crack the top 40 of 576 teams.

Zimmer already has a team on the list. He was the defensive coordinator of the 2003 Dallas Cowboys who allowed the sixth fewest yards of any team since 2000 and ranked second in the NFL in scoring.

So how do the Vikings compare in other key areas to the defenses that drove their teams to Super Bowl victories? Let’s have a look...

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How do the Vikings stack up?

The Vikings are a shade behind these all-time great defenses because of their lack of turnovers, but one more strong performance against a mediocre Bears team would put them in the ballpark, thus giving reason to believe Zimmer’s defense is good enough to carry the Vikings to a Super Bowl appearance.

More at the link: www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/12/vikings-no-1-ranked-defense-compare-recent-historys-best/

As Reignman says, the z-fense should be forcing more turnovers. If they can figure that out, they could be truly elite for years to come.

Reignman nails it again xD. But yeah, I guess I have to post the takeaway to win ratio stats again. I believe teams win 90% of their games with just a +2 takeaway difference. It's something crazy like that, so I don't know why teams don't focus more on generating more of them.

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if sitting and watching something versus actually doing it made a person great at it, Reignman would be the next Ron Jeremy.

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The Z-Fense Dec 31, 2017 15:29:21 GMT -6 Oracle Bone Diviner, Breeze, and 2 more like this

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After holding opposing offenses to a 25.2% conversion percentage on third downs, the 2017 Vikings officially have the best third down stop percentage in recorded NFL history.

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Reignman Purple Pain Lap Dog Posts: 44,738 Likes: 30,676 Fan Since: 1984	The Z-Fense Jan 1, 2018 14:56:53 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Reignman on Jan 1, 2018 14:56:53 GMT -6 That feels about right. Although I think Rhodes is underrated according to those numbers and Griffen overrated.
	Aug 8, 2024 18:42:12 GMT -6 whoskmoon said: if sitting and watching something versus actually doing it made a person great at it, Reignman would be the next Ron Jeremy.

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The Z-Fense Jan 1, 2018 15:11:35 GMT -6 Reignman likes this

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Jan 1, 2018 14:56:53 GMT -6 Reignman said:

That feels about right. Although I think Rhodes is underrated according to those numbers and Griffen overrated.

Agreed, Griffen hasn't been the same since he's been playing with that foot problem. He was definitely elite during the first half of the season, though. Rhodes was in the Great category but he had a poor game against Dontrelle Inman so he's plummeted. Perhaps if he wasn't constantly getting injured he'd be doing better - I'm pretty sure Rhodes has left a game around 7 times this season and that's not an exaggeration. He's toughed it out every single time and I think that's affected his play.

Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,661 Likes: 31,587 Fan Since: 1998	The Z-Fense Jan 1, 2018 20:05:55 GMT -6 Danchat likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Jan 1, 2018 20:05:55 GMT -6 Minnesota's defense hasn't allowed 200 yards of passing in the last five games.

Breeze Pro Bowl Imaginal Cell Posts: 2,160 Likes: 1,813	The Z-Fense Jan 2, 2018 5:41:48 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Breeze on Jan 2, 2018 5:41:48 GMT -6 this defense is playing it's best ball at the right time. having a bye is so helpful. they will be geeked up for the divisional.
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The Z-Fense Jan 3, 2018 20:49:42 GMT -6 Danchat likes this

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Vikings DT Tom Johnson proved in 2017 he’s every-down player by Matthew Coller

Heading into 2017, the Minnesota Vikings brought in plenty of competition for Tom Johnson at defensive tackle.

Knowing that former first-round pick Sharrif Floyd was unlikely to suit up this season, the Vikings signed former Green Bay Packers defensive lineman Datone Jones and drafted Iowa standout Jaleel Johnson in the fourth round.

By the end of camp, it was clear that Johnson didn’t need the help, finishing the season just short of 700 total snaps.

He picked up three stuffed runs and 30 tackles on 203 run snaps and managed a solid 75.6 (out of 100) run grade by Pro Football Focus. Johnson started 15 of 16 games, the most of his career by far.

“It’s just that you guys are looking,” Johnson said, smiling. “That’s what it is. I said at the beginning of the year when the question came, I said if you watch film, you’ll see that I’ve always been a solid run player, I haven’t had opportunities and the volume of plays to be evaluated by [media]. That’s stuff people in the league already know. I guess it’s just time for you guys to pay a little more attention to that and actually see it.”

Johnson was signed by the Vikings in 2014 to be a situational pass rusher. In his first year, the veteran D-lineman had 6.5 sacks. That number has gone down, but he was still credited with 23.0 QB pressures by Football Outsiders.

The ever-confident DT said there was nothing magical about his solid play against the run, it was simply due to an increase in opportunity.

Link: www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2018/01/vikings-dt-tom-johnson-proved-2017-hes-every-player/

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The Z-Fense Jan 10, 2018 16:59:54 GMT -6

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Jan 2, 2018 5:41:48 GMT -6 Breeze said:

this defense is playing it's best ball at the right time. having a bye is so helpful. they will be geeked up for the divisional.

given the quality of offenses played the last few weeks, I'm not sure this means much... The offense has not looked the best, but they've played against much better defenses in Chi and the cold in GB.

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The Z-Fense Jan 10, 2018 17:50:16 GMT -6

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Jan 10, 2018 16:59:54 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Jan 2, 2018 5:41:48 GMT -6 Breeze said:

this defense is playing it's best ball at the right time. having a bye is so helpful. they will be geeked up for the divisional.

given the quality of offenses played the last few weeks, I'm not sure this means much... The offense has not looked the best, but they've played against much better defenses in Chi and the cold in GB.

IMO, absolutely dominating weaker offenses for 4 qtrs is exactly how you would want your defense rolling. they don't control who they play, just how they play. the fact that it's happening right as they go into the playoffs bodes well.

doesn't mean the saints won't score....

Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,661 Likes: 31,587 Fan Since: 1998	The Z-Fense Jan 12, 2018 19:30:14 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Jan 12, 2018 19:30:14 GMT -6 Fantastic stuff, as always:

Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,661 Likes: 31,587 Fan Since: 1998	The Z-Fense Jan 12, 2018 19:41:29 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Jan 12, 2018 19:41:29 GMT -6 ESPN: How the Vikings built the NFL's No. 1 defense
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Funkytown Owner Purple Pain Big Dog Posts: 67,661 Likes: 31,587 Fan Since: 1998	The Z-Fense Jan 12, 2018 19:47:32 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Funkytown on Jan 12, 2018 19:47:32 GMT -6 Is your defense suffering from your offense? Maybe this stat will tell you.