Enemy Fan Forums: Green Bay Packers

Time for our annual battle with those pesky purple people eaters.

GB is mostly healthy and playing good FB.

I think Rodgers tears them up 38-17

Pound the hell out the rock, their run D isn’t very good. Dillon 25+ touches in this one.

Would like to see the offense well rounded which we can do if the line can protect. Division game so who knows. Has Rodgers rested up and gotten enough practice? 24-17

Win this and logically but not mathematically clinch the division.

This game all but eliminates Minnesota from the top spot in the North.
Right now a Vikings probability meter is about 16% for a Division leader (off the top of my head) the Packers hand them a loss at their house? It plummets to ~4%
The Vikings will have their back against a brick wall.
A Road Win @minni keeps us ahead of Arizona by default (tiebreaker)with just 6 games remaining and 4 @lambeau Field

Imo.
Besides @minneapolis?
@baltimore is the toughest match remaining. Followed by
Vs. Rams (possibly our toughest due to ongoing injuries)
Vs. Browns.
Vs Minnesota
Vs Bears
@detroit.

These games are all each very winnable. Much will depend on how quickly we are able to integrate Bakhtiari, Jones and Gary into the mix.
Getting Z or J’ai would be a bonus.

Vikings are missing Hunter and Pierce on their Dline. This should be a really good game for Dillon to impose his will. A shame we are missing Jones.

This is probably Kirk Cousins best season. He really isnt turning the ball over much. Im not too concerned about their passing game though because I think our DBs can hang with them but I am very concerned about getting pressure. I think Clark is going to be a game wrecker in this one. Their interior stinks but again just really worried about our edge losing contain on Cook if Gary doesnt play.

never confident going to Minny..this year no different

This is a dangerous game. On the road, against a rival, against the team that in my opinion is much better than their record; they've been tough all season long. If they can get through these next two games to the bye they'll be in great shape for the number one seed. Lose both, you not only can kiss the number one seed goodbye, but the division will be a race again.

The Vikes are desperate and are fighting for their playoff lives. I'd feel better if we had Jones, Mercilus and a healthy Gary going into this game. I hope a full week of practice with AR and the WRs will enable our offense to look more like its old self.

Any divisional games are tough on the road regardless of their win/lose record.

Matt L. will put together another plan to win this game.

I just hope the Vi-kings, bears and Lions aren't trap games for us

The outcome is anything but a given. I think we should win, but on the road in MN is tough. MN is playing better than their record and we're likely going to be down a few more guys again.

Logically, Green Bay should win because they are a better team than Minnesota.

That doesn't mean it will happen, however. The Rams probably should beat San Francisco instead of getting pounded on MNF.

Division rivals, and all that.

Vikings games always seem like trap games. Especially when you play in the land of 10,000 pot holes. It's like they see the game as their Super Bowl. They win that, and can go 0-for the rest of the year, and still feel like they kissed someone other than their ugliest sister, passionately. (Hope I haven't offended any lurking Vikings fans. I don't know if your sister is really ugly or not)

Where is Raptorman?!? This is his week!

The Vikings struggled against big backs up the middle even before their losses on the DL. Losing Jones for this game might actually work in our favor if we keep running it down their throats with Dillon. They still have weak corners. Patrick Peterson off of IR doesn't really scare me, and Harrison Smith coming off of Covid is also less of a concern. He was already slowing down. Kendricks is having a great season at LB and Barr can still be a force.

When we are on defense, it will be another test against a team with two top WRs, a top RB, and a QB who is playing better than usual. Assuming that we are without Gary and knowing that we are without Mercilous, the Vikings would be smart to get Kirk moving outside of the pocket since our main pass rush will come from the middle. As usual, the main Jenga piece that we need to focus on is Cook. If we stop Dalvin then their play-action game is gone and they struggle. Stopping Dalvin Cook is not easy, and he seems to thrive on playing the Packers.

I cautiously predict a victory but for the Vikings, Zimmer, and the entire fan base this is their Super Bowl. I would not be surprised to witness a loss.

Fun fact: There are more lakes in Wisconsin than Minnesota.

More Bears in Wisconsin's north woods than in all of Chicago, too, for that matter.

As Wisconsinites we also claim the title of drinking more beer per capita than any people, in any country, or state, in the world. Adding to it, we also drink more brandy per capita.

When we do it, we do it right!

Looking at some of the numbers, stat wise, these teams are pretty close. MN actually has scored more points, but just barely. They also have given up similar points per game as a defense, but the Packers have the advantage there. It should be a close game with the Packers sneaking it out. I just have a feeling though that MN is in "injured animal" mode and that is a dangerous place to be. This is a huge game for them and losing it would have big implications. Wild card would still be manageable, but division title would all be but gone.

I just have a feeling the Packers are going to lay an egg. The injuries are going to catch up with them and their inconsistent play will rule their day. MN 27 GB 17

Vikings...

Offense:

-Points/Game: 24.6 (14th)
-Yards/Play: 5.7 (15th)
-Rush Yds/Carry: 4.4 (11th)
-Rush Yds/Game: 122.4 (9th)
-Net Pass Yds/Att: 6.7 (11th)
-Passer Rating: 103.8 (7th)
-Sacks Allowed: 12 (1st)

Defense:

-Points/Game: 23.4 (16th)
-Yards/Play Allowed: 5.6 (Tied w/ 8 teams for 16th)
-Rush Yds/Carry: 4.7 (30th)
-Rush Yds/Game: 130.6 (28th)
-Net Pass Yds/Att: 6.2 (11th)
-Passer Rating Allowed: 87 (9th)
-Sacks: 29 (1st)
-Pressure %: 27.4 (5th)
-Blitz %: 26.3 (11th)

Basically, this paints the picture of mediocrity that we've seen this season. They protect the QB and attack the QB well-- that stands out. However, their run defense is a definite weakness, meaning that Dillon's surge could prove the definitive factor.

Seems to me that the formula this game is to lean on them in the running game and let Aaron move the chains to keep drives going. Try not to give their pass rush extra opportunities. For all the hoopla about Cook and their running game, it's borderline average.

Packers lead all-time series 63-55-3.

Last meeting: November 1, 2020. Vikings beat Packers 28-22 at Lambeau. Dalvin Cook ran for 163 yards and 3 TD's.

Offensively, Vikings rank 7th in yards per game, 9th in passing and 9th in rushing. Vikins rank 14th in points scored per game at 24.6. Cousins has thrown for 2434 yards, with 18 TD's and just 2 INT's. In 7 games, Dalvin Cook has rushed for 648 yards and 3 TD's. Justin Jefferson has 775 receiving yards and 4 TD's. Adam Thielen has 542 yards receiving and 7 TD's.

Defensively, Vikings rank 23rd in yards allowed per game, 14th in passing and 28th in rushing. They rank 16th in points allowed per game at 23.4. Opposing QB's have passed for 2147 yards, with 13 TD's and 8 INT's. Vikings have sacked opposing QB's 29 times. Danielle Hunter, who leads team in sacks is out for the year with torn pec.

Vikings have been in every game, having lost 5 games by 3, 1, 7, 4, and 3 points. That includes overtime losses to Cincinnati and Baltimore, and a 1 point loss to Arizona when their kicker missed a 37 yard field goal at the final buzzer.

Vikings are a good team. I fully expect to split the 2 games with them this season. I think the Vikings will emerge as one of the teams from the NFC that grab the last spots in the playoffs this year. If they could've had just a few plays turn their way this year, we would be looking at a much closer race for the division.

The pieces of MN games I've caught show a team that's playing hard.

IDK if they are good but they aren't BAD.

I won't be surprised at all if we lose this one.

If we use a ground and pound we win. Similar game plan as against Seattle should work well. Bit concerned about Cook though

If our D continues to play decent/stop the run even with the cover 2 shell, we'll beat them fairly easily - even though they are a fairly good team. Cousins should be good for a pick or two. If our D can't dominate them, we'll still outscore them. I'm expecting a big bounce back game from Aaron Rodgers. It seems like they've been better against the run than against the pass.

Rodgers was on the McAfee show. It was a bunch of soft balls. His toe sounds like it hurts but it’s fine. He wouldn’t get into how it happened, but he should be able to move around fine. He seemed light and in a good mood.

I keep thinking the offense is gonna start clicking at some point. Bakhtiari might make a big difference once he displaces the rookie from the lineup and the blocking becomes more consistent.

I also keep thinking the defense isn’t as good as it seems so the offense is gonna have to get it going at some point. I’m just surprised that crew, so similar to last year without Jaire and Z, I just can’t believe they’re all of a sudden so good. Hopefully I’m wrong on that front.

Maybe this offense we expect to suddenly show is a pipe dream. This is a different offense than last year. Far less play action and far more spread formations. There is hardly any misdirection and all this damn running out of shotgun.

This offense is Aaron's offense. The same crap that didn't work in 17 & 18. Right now, there is no way this offense gets the Packers to a SB.

27-17
25-22
24-14
24-10
24-21
7-13
17-0

In today's NFL that's the defense winning games.

Packers are 19th in points scored. Defense is 3rd in points given up. Nothing wrong with that. Packers win Super Bowls when they have an elite defense. Look it up. Having a HOF QB isn't enough.

They won on Sunday with Defense and the Running Game.

Think about that for a minute.

I, for one, enjoyed watching our team physically dominate their opponent.

This looks like a tough spot for the Packers. At some point, the injury issue is going to catch up with this team. However, my pessimistic thoughts on the severity of the injuries from last week was wrong. Maybe my pessimistic view of this game will be wrong too

Agreed on the injuries on D. You can get buy with duct tape and rubber bands for only so long before depth starts to collapse.

At some point this offense is going to have to start scoring more points again. They've scored 25 or less since WK05 vs CIN. That will be enough to beat most teams with the way our D is playing but as DocB said and others already know, at some point some offense is going to put up points on our D and our O will need to respond.

Some of the issues of course were AR missing playing time/practice along with OL shuffling. But some issues we've seen all season so far. Injuries or not they need to get the offense into a higher gear by Dec. if they want to be ready for the post season.

Dillon with 20+ carries, Patrick Taylor 12-15. Throw in a couple of jet sweeps or WR reverses and the Suckqueens will be going "No Mas, No Mas" by the 4th quarter.

They did come into Lambeau last year while GB was humming and escaped with a win. Weird game, kind of a slog. Looked up at the score late in the 4Q and realized MIN was going to win.

Zimmer's defense has always given Rodgers trouble, as AR even admits. I expect this to be Minnesota's last-gasp game: they need to win to stay relevant in the race. Therefore, they will play all-in and that could spell trouble for GB. I'm hoping this is the week Rodgers gets past the fact it's Zimmer and torches them, but I fully expect it to be another down-to-the-wire nail-biter.