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Vikings 2021 Game Recaps & Snap Counts Sept 13, 2021 19:39:07 GMT -6 Reignman, Funkytown, and 6 more like this

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Post by Danchat on Sept 13, 2021 19:39:07 GMT -6

This is a weekly thread recapping games, going over some PFF grades, and looking at snap counts to determine who played and how often they did. I won't cover every player, as this would take too long. Let's begin.

The offense was out there for 83 snaps... to be completely reasonable, 24 points against the Bengals in a 70 minute game with 83 snaps is not going to cut it, even if the defense looked way worse than expected.

A note from GA Skol on his recap on the Daily Norseman on Kirk:

Kirk Cousins - 83 snaps (100%) 36/49 for 351 and 2 TDs, QBR 46.7, Passer Rating 106.8 This seems like a typical Kirk Cousins game. He made some nice throws, he put up some nice stats, but it isn’t enough. Coach Zimmer mentioned at the half he thought Kirk needed to make quicker decisions and get rid of the ball faster. I agree with that take. There were a few passes to Justin Jefferson that were late and/or high. There was a pass to CJ Ham that was the same. There was a play against a full blitz where Kirk took a sack instead of making a quick decision. He actually stepped up into a zero blitz. I don’t think Kirk is the reason the Vikes lost, but he wasn’t going to be the reason they won either. PFF had him as the highest rated offensive player for Minnesota at 80.9. ESPN’s QBR stat had Kirk at a below average 46.7. That is the enigma of Cousins wrapped up in two ratings.

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Mattison - 9/83 snaps (10.8%)

Mattison has returned to his role of barely playing while Cook handles the full workload. I don't get the point of spending a 3rd on a guy who rarely gets used.

Abdullah - 9/83 snaps (10.8%)

Ameer will likely return to the 53 man roster after being sent to the PS.

FB

Ham - 25/83 snaps (30%)

CJ actually got a high score from PFF despite the 2 penalties and poor running game for Cook.

WR

Osborn - 67/83 (80.7%)

Yes, folks, you're seeing that right. The Vikings used their 3rd WR on most plays of the game, which was something you didn't see last year. With Irv Smith out it makes a bunch of sense, and KJ had a quality game. While it's too soon to say that Osborn is a success story, he's quickly gone from 5th round bust as a specialist to an actual weapon on offense. This is a positive development.

Westbrook - 12/83 (14.5%)

Dede has only been practicing at WR for a couple weeks now, easing back from the ACL tear. At this point I don't think he passes Osborn for the #3 job.

Smith-Marsette - 4/83 (4.8%)

ISM is the clear #5 WR.

TE

Conklin - 59/83 (71%)

Tyler didn't play quite as much as you'd expect. PFF gave him a very poor grade despite him appearing to have a fine game.

Herndon - 12/83 (14.5%)

To nobody's surprise, Herndon didn't play much. He will get more snaps in future weeks, but with Osborn's play, I doubt he will play a Irv-like role.

OL

I was surprised how poorly this OL run blocked despite having a strong 2020 in that department. Bradbury had a remarkably poor game and O'Neill also did poorly.

In pass protection, well, you don't need the PFF grades. Bradbury looks like a bust, Cleveland was a lot worse than expected, and Hill was flat-out bad. Udoh did finish with below average grades, but I do think he is an upgrade from Dozier... but basically any guard in the NFL is.

DE

Hunter - 60/69

Wonnum - 47/69 (68%)

Weatherly - 17/69 (24.6%)

Griffen - 28/69 (40.6%)

Hunter and Griffen did not have good games by PFF, but each notched 2 pressures. Both were awful stopping the run. Wonnum couldn't stop the run nor rush the passer. Weatherly got good grades but didn't do anything particular.

DT

Tomlinson 47/69 (68%)

Pierce 41/69 (59%)

Richardson 22/69 (32%)

Watts 17/69 (25%)

Pierce had a quality game, you could probably tell that. Tomlinson was disappointing, with a below average score against the run. Watts didn't stick out. Richardson had a very poor game, providing no pass rush and got pushed around on runs.

LB

Lynch - 16/69 (23%)

With Kendricks and Vigil out there 100% of the snaps, Lynch filled in the 3rd LB role but didn't stick out.

DBs are what you would expect, zero rotation with the 5 starters outside of Boyd playing a few snaps in Breeland's place. It seems Bashaud may have re-aggravated his shoulder injury... or more likely, has contracted Xavier Rhodes-itis.

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Vikings 2021 Game Recaps & Snap Counts Sept 14, 2021 11:52:29 GMT -6 Reignman, Purple Pain, and 2 more like this

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Thanks Danchat for providing this weekly review - it really gives fans a different perspective of what happened vs what they think/remember happening when they watched the game live.

I'm looking at the RB snaps and I see Dalvin had 59 total snaps and 20 rush attempts, while CJ Ham had 25 total snaps. It seems that by just reviewing those snaps, you could make the assumption that when Cook was in there rushing, Ham was in front of him as the lead blocker which is offense we ran for Adrian - straight-up behind Asiata. While it can be effective, it's also pretty "basic" at this point and I would guess pretty easy for opposing Defensive Coordinators to prepare for.

...while you could also make the assumption that with 59 attempts and only 20 rush attempts, Cook wasn't just out there to take straight hand-offs as he was involved in the passing/screen game, too; and he was - he had 6 receptions for 43 yds.

I have two "problems" or comments about that:

- Similar to the AP days, it's obvious the offense runs through the RB. While Cook is a Top 5 RB, I'm still not 100% sold on the notion that he's a complete "workhorse" RB that should get 25-30 touches a game like Barkley, Zeke and Chubb should be getting. And I'm wondering if working Cook like that perhaps may have played a small part in his OT fumble (regardless of whether you think it was or wasn't a technical fumble, he still lost concentration for a bit and put the ball on the ground). Like you mentioned, we took a RB in the 3rd in Mattison and he's shown (at least to me anyway) that he's effective - let's use him. Yes, I know, Cook basically won the game in 2020 at Green Bay by himself and his performance that day is certainly memorable...and we won that battle, but obviously didn't win the entire war in 2020...I think we should be thinking a bit "big picture" a bit with Cook's workload in the early going of the season.

- As previously-mentioned, the straight handoffs to Cook behind Ham are predictable and can be easily-defended, especially given the performance (or lack thereof) of the Vikes OL. If you're an opposing DC and you see the Vikes line-up with Kirk behind C with Ham and Cook, you're audibling to your MIKE LB to send a run-blitz whichever direction Ham goes. Sometimes you get caught and it's a play-action and your LB's will get caught while a Vikes WR or TE slips behind them, but given how poorly the Vikes OL played, it might not matter. The point is, we need to get different looks on offense to give the opposing DC's more to think about.

I've been saying this for years it seems, but I still believe it to be true: one way to fix these issues is to have both Cook and Mattison line-up in the backfield at the same time on either side of Kirk - either in shotgun or behind center. That opens up a world of possibilities for the playbook: handoffs to either (either tosses or mis-directions), both can stay behind and block while the TE runs a deep post behind the frozen LB's who have to stay in the box, one stays behind while the other flares for a screen or wheel-route, both RB's go out and TE stays behind and suddenly you're 4-wide with receiving options, etc. Getting Mattison out there more in the backfield will give him more snaps/reps, opens up our offensive playbook a bit more and gives the opposing DC's more to think about.

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Sept 14, 2021 11:52:29 GMT -6 Uncle said:

Thanks Danchat for providing this weekly review - it really gives fans a different perspective of what happened vs what they think/remember happening when they watched the game live.

I'm looking at the RB snaps and I see Dalvin had 59 total snaps and 20 rush attempts, while CJ Ham had 25 total snaps. It seems that by just reviewing those snaps, you could make the assumption that when Cook was in there rushing, Ham was in front of him as the lead blocker which is offense we ran for Adrian - straight-up behind Asiata. While it can be effective, it's also pretty "basic" at this point and I would guess pretty easy for opposing Defensive Coordinators to prepare for.

...while you could also make the assumption that with 59 attempts and only 20 rush attempts, Cook wasn't just out there to take straight hand-offs as he was involved in the passing/screen game, too; and he was - he had 6 receptions for 43 yds.

I have two "problems" or comments about that:

- Similar to the AP days, it's obvious the offense runs through the RB. While Cook is a Top 5 RB, I'm still not 100% sold on the notion that he's a complete "workhorse" RB that should get 25-30 touches a game like Barkley, Zeke and Chubb should be getting. And I'm wondering if working Cook like that perhaps may have played a small part in his OT fumble (regardless of whether you think it was or wasn't a technical fumble, he still lost concentration for a bit and put the ball on the ground). Like you mentioned, we took a RB in the 3rd in Mattison and he's shown (at least to me anyway) that he's effective - let's use him. Yes, I know, Cook basically won the game in 2020 at Green Bay by himself and his performance that day is certainly memorable...and we won that battle, but obviously didn't win the entire war in 2020...I think we should be thinking a bit "big picture" a bit with Cook's workload in the early going of the season.

- As previously-mentioned, the straight handoffs to Cook behind Ham are predictable and can be easily-defended, especially given the performance (or lack thereof) of the Vikes OL. If you're an opposing DC and you see the Vikes line-up with Kirk behind C with Ham and Cook, you're audibling to your MIKE LB to send a run-blitz whichever direction Ham goes. Sometimes you get caught and it's a play-action and your LB's will get caught while a Vikes WR or TE slips behind them, but given how poorly the Vikes OL played, it might not matter. The point is, we need to get different looks on offense to give the opposing DC's more to think about.

I've been saying this for years it seems, but I still believe it to be true: one way to fix these issues is to have both Cook and Mattison line-up in the backfield at the same time on either side of Kirk - either in shotgun or behind center. That opens up a world of possibilities for the playbook: handoffs to either (either tosses or mis-directions), both can stay behind and block while the TE runs a deep post behind the frozen LB's who have to stay in the box, one stays behind while the other flares for a screen or wheel-route, both RB's go out and TE stays behind and suddenly you're 4-wide with receiving options, etc. Getting Mattison out there more in the backfield will give him more snaps/reps, opens up our offensive playbook a bit more and gives the opposing DC's more to think about.

LOVE the post Uncle. Really spot on with what I believe as well in the predictability of the offense, Ham and Cook in the I-form the defense is all in on the run and even if they are wrong the Oline is most likely not going to hold up anyway. Which is most likely why we didnt run more play action of bootlegs Sunday. I would go in the shotgun a lot more and I like your idea of Cook and Mattison on either side of Kirk and you could even do Ham as he has shown to make some plays with the ball is in hand. I know it was week one but like the preseason, the offense overall looks way too generic and unless the Oline somehow gets better we are going to need a lot more creativity to mask this. This is what the O coordinator is getting paid to do, Shurmur did it beautifully in 2017

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Vikings 2021 Game Recaps & Snap Counts Sept 16, 2021 19:03:13 GMT -6

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Sept 13, 2021 19:39:07 GMT -6 Danchat said:

Mattison has returned to his role of barely playing while Cook handles the full workload. I don't get the point of spending a 3rd on a guy who rarely gets used.

Based on his knack of fumbling at the most inopportune times, maybe Mattison should be out there when we're running down the clock to setup a game winning FG?

Cook Fumbles Lost:
2017 vs Lions - 10:35 left in 3rd, Vikings lead 7-6, Cook tears ACL and fumbles at own 20, Lions take lead for good.
2018 vs 49ers - 10:22 left in 2nd, Vikings lead 10-3, Cook fumbles after a nice run at 49ers 29.
2018 at Bears - 1:02 left in 1st, Vikings trail 3-0, Cook fumbles at Bears 14.
2019 at Giants - 2:22 left in half, Vikings lead 13-7, Cook fumbles after a nice run at Giants 2.
2019 at Seahawks - 8:36 left in 3rd, game tied at 17, Cook fumbles at own 22, Seahawks take lead for good.
2020 vs Titans - 7:03 left in 1st, Vikings trail 3-0, Cook fumbles at own 45.
2020 vs Cowboys - 1:03 left in half, Vikings trail 13-7, Cook fumbles at Cowboys 31.
2020 vs Panthers - 14:01 left in 3rd, Vikings trail 14-10, Cook fumbles at own 28, and it's returned for a TD.
2021 at Bengals - 2:00 left in OT, game tied at 24, Cook fumbles at Bengals 38.

Cook Fumbles Not Lost:
2019 at Giants - 3:41 left in half, Vikings lead 13-7, Cook fumbles at Giants 39, but recovered it himself.
2019 at Seahawks - 0:22 left in half, Vikings lead 14-10, Cook fumbles at midfield, but recovered by Elflein.
2020 at Bears - 1st play of 4th, game tied at 13, Cook fumbles at own 45, but recovered it himself.
2020 at Saints - 12:21 left in 2nd, Vikings trail 17-7, Cook fumbles at Saints 33, ball out of bounds.

That's a lot of fumbles in his young career already, 13 in 44 games. It's never good to fumble, but a lot of these are at really bad times. Mattison should be our closer maybe.

Sept 13, 2021 19:39:07 GMT -6 Danchat said:

Yes, folks, you're seeing that right. The Vikings used their 3rd WR on most plays of the game, which was something you didn't see last year.

Then why does our offense still seem like it's stuck in 1972 though? Is it all the runs on 1st down? J/k, we actually had a decent pass/run ratio (18 pass 13 run) on 1st downs believe it or not. Didn't seem like it though, and probably because 11 of our 13 first down runs went for 3 yards or less, so maybe the ratio is fine now, but now we're just really bad at running on first down, which is just putting us behind in the down/distance way too much. The 5 yard passes work better when it's 3rd and 5 rather than 3rd and 12.

Every first down play call:

SPOILER: Click to show

1st Quarter:
false start
pass 9 yards
run 1 yard
run 3 yards
pass 9 yards
sack

2nd Quarter:
pass inc
pass 4 yards
pass 17 yards
run -3 yards
run 1 yard
pass 5 yard TD
pass inc
false start
pass 20
pass 8
pass 0

3rd Quarter:
run 13
run 0
run -1
pass inc

4th Quarter:
pass 5
run 5
run 2
pass 8
run 1 TD
pass inc
run 0
pass 7
pass inc
pass 14

Overtime:
run -1
run 0

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Vikings 2021 Game Recaps & Snap Counts Sept 16, 2021 19:06:47 GMT -6

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Sept 14, 2021 12:08:33 GMT -6 Purple Pain said:

OMFG

... Spielman the genius though. 4?!? I don't even know how that's possible.

We can make it even more sad if we divide by the number of draft picks each team had.

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Sept 14, 2021 11:52:29 GMT -6 Uncle said:

I'm looking at the RB snaps and I see Dalvin had 59 total snaps and 20 rush attempts, while CJ Ham had 25 total snaps. It seems that by just reviewing those snaps, you could make the assumption that when Cook was in there rushing, Ham was in front of him as the lead blocker which is offense we ran for Adrian - straight-up behind Asiata. While it can be effective, it's also pretty "basic" at this point and I would guess pretty easy for opposing Defensive Coordinators to prepare for.

Sept 14, 2021 11:52:29 GMT -6 Uncle said:

As previously-mentioned, the straight handoffs to Cook behind Ham are predictable and can be easily-defended

Yeah, wow, I was going to say, if that's true, then that's very predictable. I would hope Klint wasn't that bush league, and after a quick look, it looks like we ran 15 times with Cook and Ham on the field and passed 10 times. Meanwhile in single back sets we ran 7 times and passed 43, so that's still pretty predictable. The average per rush would suggest as much too. With Ham in blocking, Cook averaged 2.13 and without he was at 5.00.

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Vikings 2021 Game Recaps & Snap Counts Sept 17, 2021 0:56:21 GMT -6

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Sept 16, 2021 19:28:26 GMT -6 Reignman said:

Yeah, wow, I was going to say, if that's true, then that's very predictable. I would hope Klint wasn't that bush league, and after a quick look, it looks like we ran 15 times with Cook and Ham on the field and passed 10 times. Meanwhile in single back sets we ran 7 times and passed 43, so that's still pretty predictable. The average per rush would suggest as much too. With Ham in blocking, Cook averaged 2.13 and without he was at 5.00.

Did down and distance play a part in that?

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Post by Jor-El on Sept 20, 2021 16:05:24 GMT -6

Good news in the OL grades. Improvements by Cleveland, Udoh, even Bradbury.
Hey, wasn't there a TE on this team, name of Conlklin, I believe, that many people thought could start, maybe be as good as Rudolph was the last few seasons, and some even suggested the Vikings should give him a contract extension before he broke out?
Did Patrick Peterson play well or not? I thought he did but he has a pretty low PFF grade.
Who fixed KJ Osborne? Obviously he himself had the biggest role, but is Keenan McCardell responsible for this? I guess the biggest factor might be "playing with 2 WRs that draw double coverage", but that didn't help the long line of crappy guys who have preceded him at #3 WR...

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Sept 20, 2021 16:05:24 GMT -6 Jor-El said:

Good news in the OL grades. Improvements by Cleveland, Udoh, even Bradbury.
Hey, wasn't there a TE on this team, name of Conlklin, I believe, that many people thought could start, maybe be as good as Rudolph was the last few seasons, and some even suggested the Vikings should give him a contract extension before he broke out?
Did Patrick Peterson play well or not? I thought he did but he has a pretty low PFF grade.
Who fixed KJ Osborne? Obviously he himself had the biggest role, but is Keenan McCardell responsible for this? I guess the biggest factor might be "playing with 2 WRs that draw double coverage", but that didn't help the long line of crappy guys who have preceded him at #3 WR...

I think PP held Hopkins to 4 catches for 54 yards plus the TD. That shouldn't yield a low grade against arguably the best WR in the game.

IIRRC Osborn spent the offseason training with some big name guys. That probably lit the fire and Keenan stoked it.

The adulation after Conklin had like 2 good games at the end of last year was puzzling.

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Week 2 at Cardinals:

RB Mattison 13/61 (21%)
RB Abdullah 1/61 (1%)

With Cook hobbling in the second half, it would have made sense to use the backups more. Alas, the Vikings continued to pound Cook into the ground. Mattison is a clear downgrade, but they should use him more just to keep Cook fresh.

FB Ham 15/61 (25%)
TE Ellefson 16/61 (26%)
TE Herndon 12/61 (20%)

The Vikings used their new blocking TE more than their trusty FB and #2 TE they spent a 4th rounder on. All three graded poorly by PFF's metrics, but it seems under Klint Kubiak, they're going to be using their 2nd TE for more blocking than receiving, especially with the strength of the next group:

WR Osborn 36/61 (59%)
WR Westbrook 2/61(3%)

I scoffed at the idea a couple weeks back, but it's apparent now - Osborn is the #3 WR and his training camp breakout was no joke. After being a UDFA talent drafted mainly for his return skills, Osborn worked his butt off knowing his roster spot was on the line and he looks good. The busted TD was an easy play, but even if you remove that, he's still had 11 catches for 103 yards the first 2 weeks. Kubiak seems intent on using him like other teams use their 3rd WRs, which is great to see.

OL

LT Hill - 3 pressures, 1 penalty
LG Cleveland - clean
C Bradbury - 2 pressures
RG Udoh - 2 pressures
RT O'Neill - 1 penalty

It was a far better outing for the Vikings' OL, as they handled Watt and Jones rather well. My main complaint was that the run blocking broke down in the interior in the second half as the Cardinals clamped down on the run, and they did give up more pressures than you'd like on 3rd down. However, it was very encouraging to see the guards grade so well . PFF gave Hill another terrible grade. Bradberry was better, but this is par for the course with him. O'Neill was as solid as usual.

DL

Hunter 53/61 (87%) - 7 pressures
Wonnum 51/61 (84%) - 3 pressures
Weatherly 29/61 (48%) - 5 pressures

With Griffen hurt, the Vikings did not employ much of a rotation. Wonnum was invisible and has not looked like an NFL starter so far. Weatherly was a minor surprise as he was a key factor on the first interception - even if he did bump Murray's face.

DT

Tomlinson 38/61 (62%)
Pierce 37/61 (61%)
Richardson 23/61 (38%)
Watts 13/61 (21%)

Pierce is the main positive here, stringing together another strong outing against the run. The three others struggled again, with Tomlinson looking too easy to push around in the ground game, and Richardson looking past his prime. Perhaps a year off for Pierce made him fresher and healthier?

LB

Lynch 17/61 (28%)

Kendricks and Lynch played 100% and looked generally good, though they missed a combined 5 tackles. Kendricks still made 5 run stops and Vigil got an elite grade in coverage. Lynch has looked like nothing special, which is an upgrade on how bad Troy Dye was last year.

CB

Peterson 61/61
Breeland 45/61 (74%)
Alexander 44/61 (73%)
Dantzler 16/61 (26%)

PFF gave Peterson a poor grade, blaming him for the blown play that let Rondale Moore score. They instead gave Breeland an average grade, which is beyond baffling to me. He looked terrible and I have to wonder if he's fully healthy. Mack also had a lousy game. Dantzler played well by default, but that was a very small sample size. The news here is that he's already passed up Boyd on the depth chart. He probably deserves to be in a rotation with Breeland (think Waynes/Newman rotation in 2016).

As for safety, Woods got a great rating, and Smith got poor reviews. The Cardinals seemed to mostly stay away from Woods' coverage, but it seems Smith gave up a few of those plays to Maxx Williams, who inexplicably had a great game.

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Vikings 2021 Game Recaps & Snap Counts Sept 21, 2021 8:55:51 GMT -6

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Post by Jor-El on Sept 21, 2021 8:55:51 GMT -6

Sept 14, 2021 11:52:29 GMT -6 Uncle said:

I still believe it to be true: one way to fix these issues is to have both Cook and Mattison line-up in the backfield at the same time

Great point. Actually, I think if Mattison had been drafted by any other team that had a feature back, they would be asking him to lead block for Cook at most times. Some would have turned him into a pseudo-fullback. If Mattison took some of Ham's snaps, a better threat would be on the field. (Sorry to all the Ham fans...)

Sept 20, 2021 18:02:24 GMT -6 Danchat said:

Maxx Williams, who inexplicably had a great game

Maybe it's explicable as Smith declining and letting Williams excel? Seems more likely than the explanation that Maxx was trying to look good for all his hometown fans. I was certainly wrong about the career Williams would have in the NFL..

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