2021 Offensive Line Discussion

These 2 posts together nail it. The OL coaching has been nothing short of abysmal and are an indictment on Mike Zimmer as HC.

I stated this in another thread but I'll repeat it here, Garrett Bradburys' biggest problem in pass pro is his footwork. When watching tape of him in pass reps there is a common theme, it starts with his base being too wide and is compounded by what he does with his left foot. His left foot goes out away from his body and back. This out and back movement means his feet are not underneath him correctly and effects his ability to engage and anchor because he is not balanced. 
As soon as the DL engages, Bradbury is toast because he's off balance and his feet are too far apart. This is a correctable flaw, but somehow hasn't been fixed, and the only logical conclusion to why it hasn't been fixed is because the OL coaches aren't doing their job or they are teaching the wrong techniques.

Bradbury wasn't doing these things in college, his footwork wasn't perfect but it was decent, he wasn't setting his base so wide either. 
After his struggles as a rookie he made some changes, and those changes have morphed into the poor technique we see now. 
The unknown question is did the coaching staff recommend thses changes, or was he left to his own devices to figure it out for himself? Whatever the answer to that, it still comes back to bad coaching.

I agree with Jor-El that O'Neill has been able to improve himself despite the poor OL coaching.

My biggest issue is that the scheme to beat the vikings is now out there.  Start 5 big defense line players and it totally messes up our blocking schemes, because the line is not good enough to handle 1 on 1 blocking.  This is more of a system failure. 

Run them...like its a HS team.

After three years and running (probably more) of a bad OL and a mix of players there is only so many constant, HC and GM...the ones that pick, train, and put the product on the field. If his idea is to "run them", who is going to impose a punishment on HC/GM ? When will that blame fall ?

"Run them" ? 

I hated Chilly, but we didn't have these types of problems when he was the head coach right? The OL was functional until we hired Zim and he brings in his own staff. Rick can go too but this is a coaching issue on the OL.

These 2 posts together nail it. The OL coaching has been nothing short of abysmal and are an indictment on Mike Zimmer as HC.

I stated this in another thread but I'll repeat it here, Garrett Bradburys' biggest problem in pass pro is his footwork. When watching tape of him in pass reps there is a common theme, it starts with his base being too wide and is compounded by what he does with his left foot. His left foot goes out away from his body and back. This out and back movement means his feet are not underneath him correctly and effects his ability to engage and anchor because he is not balanced. 
As soon as the DL engages, Bradbury is toast because he's off balance and his feet are too far apart. This is a correctable flaw, but somehow hasn't been fixed, and the only logical conclusion to why it hasn't been fixed is because the OL coaches aren't doing their job or they are teaching the wrong techniques.

Bradbury wasn't doing these things in college, his footwork wasn't perfect but it was decent, he wasn't setting his base so wide either. 
After his struggles as a rookie he made some changes, and those changes have morphed into the poor technique we see now. 
The unknown question is did the coaching staff recommend thses changes, or was he left to his own devices to figure it out for himself? Whatever the answer to that, it still comes back to bad coaching.

I agree with Jor-El that O'Neill has been able to improve himself despite the poor OL coaching.

Well, Zimmer actually didn't bring in his own offensive coaches entirely. 4 of his 8 offensive coaches were holdovers from Les Frazier's regime, including OL coach Jeff Davidson. Childress' OL coach was Pat Morris.

I actually wish Zimmer had brought in someone else instead of just keeping bums like Davidson and former WR coach George Stewart. That's a core problem about Zimmer: he doesn't even have strong opinions about coaching the offensive side of the ball, not enough to know a set of coaches he would choose over a preceding staff that won only 5 games. It's one of the things that came out about all his HC interviews prior to getting hired here: teams said he didn't have any good answers about how he would fill his staff outside the defensive side. Zimmer is a defensive coordinator.