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A. Rodgers...Predictions? May 10, 2021 21:22:43 GMT -6 via mobile

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May 10, 2021 20:43:12 GMT -6 Drank said:

May 10, 2021 20:36:45 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

Everything you said was dumb lol. Your saying that we judge individual players by how well their team does, thus indicating you think Dilfer and Johnson are better then Marino and Kelly lol.

Mahomes is the only QB in history that has a chance of catching Rodgers statistically, but it's way to early to say he is better. You realize Rodgers had the same amount of rings as Mahomes after the same amount of seasons starting, right?

I agree that if someone is better then Rodgers, its probably Mahomes, but it certainly isn't Tom 'the system' Brady who consistently puts up lesser numbers with all around better supporting casts.

So I guess if you taken it there I will then. I was having a discussion with you but ... so if I am dumb I guess you dumb and everything you said is dumb get off the Packers dick. This Viking Village. Packer love get no play here.

You see that Sun now Drank dumb can't even have a discussion and disagreement respectfully, then this stuff happens I gonna keep my cool though and take the high road. I'm dumb because I think Mahomes better today than Rodgers unbelievable LOL!

I didn't call you dumb, I called what you said dumb lol.

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May 10, 2021 21:14:25 GMT -6 kyvikesfan59 said:

In my opinion putting up the biggest numbers is no indication that a player is the greatest. Jerry Rice has the better numbers of any WR but Randy Moss is the most dominant WR in NFL history. He could do things Rice could only dream of.

Rodgers is clearly one of the best to ever play the game. On a personal level I can't stand the smug SOB. I'll never see him as the GOAT. Rodgers has the numbers, Brady has the rings. Easy math.

Depends on how you look at it. From a talent level Moss is the best I rather go one on one with Rice than Moss. From a career standpoint Rice had the better career. In a nut shell they would be my 2 Wrs though regardless.

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A. Rodgers...Predictions? May 10, 2021 21:28:30 GMT -6 via mobile

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May 10, 2021 21:14:25 GMT -6 kyvikesfan59 said:

In my opinion putting up the biggest numbers is no indication that a player is the greatest. Jerry Rice has the better numbers of any WR but Randy Moss is the most dominant WR in NFL history. He could do things Rice could only dream of.

Rodgers is clearly one of the best to ever play the game. On a personal level I can't stand the smug SOB. I'll never see him as the GOAT. Rodgers has the numbers, Brady has the rings. Easy math.

Yes. Rodgers has the numbers because of himself, Brady has the rings because of his superior teams (and cheating scandals), see how this works? My whole point here is that Brady only has more rings because of his teams, not himself, therefore, his rings dont serve as any argument towards him (Brady) being better. Its just side stepping and not addressing the issue entirely.

You know who would have gotten Brady's teams more rings? Rodgers, we know this because his numbers are better, despite being on inferior teams. Think about what those loaded, cheating Patriots teams would have done with a guy who is better at everything then Brady. If Rodgers can easily out produce Brady on inferior teams, just imagine if he was on teams of the same level.

Good to know that you think Dilfer and Johnson are better then Marino and Kelly though.

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A. Rodgers...Predictions? May 10, 2021 21:30:54 GMT -6 via mobile

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May 10, 2021 21:22:52 GMT -6 Drank said:

May 10, 2021 21:14:25 GMT -6 kyvikesfan59 said:

In my opinion putting up the biggest numbers is no indication that a player is the greatest. Jerry Rice has the better numbers of any WR but Randy Moss is the most dominant WR in NFL history. He could do things Rice could only dream of.

Rodgers is clearly one of the best to ever play the game. On a personal level I can't stand the smug SOB. I'll never see him as the GOAT. Rodgers has the numbers, Brady has the rings. Easy math.

Depends on how you look at it. From a talent level Moss is the best I rather go one on one with Rice than Moss. From a career standpoint Rice had the better career. In a nut shell they would be my 2 Wrs though regardless.

Right. Compare that to Rodgers, who is better then Brady from a talent level perspective, and also actual on field numbers, and its clear that had he been on Brady's loaded teams, he would have gotten even more rings. (Unless you think superior QB play hurts a teams SB chances lol)

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May 10, 2021 21:30:54 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

May 10, 2021 21:22:52 GMT -6 Drank said:

Depends on how you look at it. From a talent level Moss is the best I rather go one on one with Rice than Moss. From a career standpoint Rice had the better career. In a nut shell they would be my 2 Wrs though regardless.

Right. Compare that to Rodgers, who is better then Brady from a talent level perspective, and also actual on field numbers, and its clear that had he been on Brady's loaded teams, he would have gotten even more rings. (Unless you think superior QB play hurts a teams SB chances lol)

I don't see it Rodgers up there he not higher than Brady though. Brady going to Bucs gave him my GOAT nod. People said it was just because he was with Bill he proved them wrong. Rodgers is not a super freak like Moss it's different. If anything Mahomes is the Moss super freak of QBs he does stuff Rodgers don't. I question if Rodgers could play in the rough eras, because he a straight puss who cries when he gets hit hard. He top 5 but not the GOAT he definitely behind Brady, Manning, Montana for me maybe even Elway. JMO he just ahead of Favre for me. Like I said Mahomes is numeral uno right now. Mahomes not ahead of Rodgers career yet but better to me today.

FTR I don't have to be dumb for that neither because it is my opinion. You get one and so do I so we leave it at that you heard.

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May 10, 2021 21:38:46 GMT -6 Drank said:

May 10, 2021 21:30:54 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

Right. Compare that to Rodgers, who is better then Brady from a talent level perspective, and also actual on field numbers, and its clear that had he been on Brady's loaded teams, he would have gotten even more rings. (Unless you think superior QB play hurts a teams SB chances lol)

I don't see it Rodgers up there he not higher than Brady though. Brady going to Bucs gave him my GOAT nod. People said it was just because he was with Bill he proved them wrong. Rodgers is not a super freak like Moss it's different. If anything Mahomes is the Moss super freak of QBs he does stuff Rodgers don't. I question if Rodgers could play in the rough eras, because he a straight puss who cries when he gets hit hard. He top 5 but not the GOAT he definitely behind Brady, Manning, Montana for me maybe even Elway. JMO he just ahead of Favre for me. Like I said Mahomes is numeral uno right now. Mahomes not ahead of Rodgers career yet but better to me today.

FTR I don't have to be dumb for that neither because it is my opinion. You get one and so do I so we leave it at that you heard.

Mahomes is only doing stuff that Rodgers has been doing for a decade. Mahomes is literally the new Rodgers. Rodgers has been doing things noone else in history could do until Mahomes.

You realize Rodgers numbers statistically beat everyone you just named right? How could Manning and Elway be better then Rodgers, when their numbers aren't as good and their physical talent pales in comparison as well? Your literally just naming QBs and declaring them better based on nothing lol. Rodgers is statistically the best QB in history, and his physical talent was unmatched until Mahomes.

Rodgers had bottom 10 O lines for the first 6 seasons of his career, unlike Brady, so not really seeing anything supporting the idea that he is a puss, outside of you just not liking him because he is a Packer lol.

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May 10, 2021 21:30:54 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

May 10, 2021 21:22:52 GMT -6 Drank said:

Depends on how you look at it. From a talent level Moss is the best I rather go one on one with Rice than Moss. From a career standpoint Rice had the better career. In a nut shell they would be my 2 Wrs though regardless.

Right. Compare that to Rodgers, who is better then Brady from a talent level perspective, and also actual on field numbers, and its clear that had he been on Brady's loaded teams, he would have gotten even more rings. (Unless you think superior QB play hurts a teams SB chances lol)

Boy you sensitive man tell your Daddy or brother I said kiss my ass, It's Drank so you know who said it, he can find me in Dallas Texas if he think I won't say it to his face too he soft . (roflmao)

He not the GOAT period. On your list cool not in mind get over it already. My opinion is not changing. Butt hurt over my opinion boy move on we disagree it is what it is.

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May 10, 2021 21:56:20 GMT -6 Drank said:

May 10, 2021 21:30:54 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

Right. Compare that to Rodgers, who is better then Brady from a talent level perspective, and also actual on field numbers, and its clear that had he been on Brady's loaded teams, he would have gotten even more rings. (Unless you think superior QB play hurts a teams SB chances lol)

Boy you sensitive man tell your Daddy or brother I said kiss my ass, It's Drank so you know who said it he can find me in Dallas Texas if he think I won't say it to his face too (roflmao)

He not the GOAT period. On your list cool not in mind get over it already. My opinion is not changing. Butt hurt over my opinion boy move on we disagree it is what it is.

Well, statistically he is the best ever. I understand that you judge players by how good their team is though, yes.

I'm not butt hurt lol.

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May 10, 2021 22:06:50 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

May 10, 2021 21:56:20 GMT -6 Drank said:

Boy you sensitive man tell your Daddy or brother I said kiss my ass, It's Drank so you know who said it he can find me in Dallas Texas if he think I won't say it to his face too (roflmao)

He not the GOAT period. On your list cool not in mind get over it already. My opinion is not changing. Butt hurt over my opinion boy move on we disagree it is what it is.

Well, statistically he is the best ever. I understand that you judge players by how good their team is though, yes.

I'm not butt hurt lol.

HE IS NOT THE BEST EVER! Okay we had our back and forth good night! Next time let's leave dumb and all that out of it state your opinion as will I and let it go. I can't afford to get in no heated personal attacks on here no more. We discuss give our view on why we think a certain way and LIG it Let it go!

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May 10, 2021 22:12:31 GMT -6 Drank said:

May 10, 2021 22:06:50 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

Well, statistically he is the best ever. I understand that you judge players by how good their team is though, yes.

I'm not butt hurt lol.

HE IS NOT THE BEST EVER! Okay we had our back and forth good night! Next time let's leave dumb and all that out of it state your opinion as will I and let it go. I can't afford to get in no heated personal attacks on here no more. We discuss give our view on why we think a certain way and LIG it Let it go!

Statistically, Rodgers is the best ever. When it comes to being bailed out by loaded teams and cheating scandals, Brady is the GOAT, absolutely.

I never attacked you personally. I called something you said dumb. I didn't call you dumb, nor would I.

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May 10, 2021 22:14:16 GMT -6 vikecycle said:

May 10, 2021 22:12:31 GMT -6 Drank said:

HE IS NOT THE BEST EVER! Okay we had our back and forth good night! Next time let's leave dumb and all that out of it state your opinion as will I and let it go. I can't afford to get in no heated personal attacks on here no more. We discuss give our view on why we think a certain way and LIG it Let it go!

Statistically, Rodgers is the best ever. When it comes to being bailed out by loaded teams and cheating scandals, Brady is the GOAT, absolutely.

I never attacked you personally. I called something you said dumb. I didn't call you dumb, nor would I.

Cycle I will admit that the Pats cheated and I hate Brady too. The league let it happen though they should have stripped the rings. So since they let it go on I guess they allow those things. Rodgers up their just not #1 but top 5 of the guys I seen JMO. I mix stats, eye test, and a few other factors. Not just one thing but a factor of things he up there though Rodgers just not the best ever to me.

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May 10, 2021 22:39:27 GMT -6 ozzvic said:

Adams could be on his way out after 2021 without Rodgers. I honestly think GB could finally be on the way down, it only took 30 freaking years🤬🤬🤬

The good: Adams MAY also want out (or could use it as leverage for a bigger payday)

The bad: it may force GBs hand to do what it takes to appease both, because losing both of them is clearly a huge deal. So it may push GB to resolving it and doing what it takes to keep them. Maybe even firing their GM. Who knows.

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May 10, 2021 19:07:20 GMT -6 Danchat said:

May 10, 2021 18:18:01 GMT -6 Raptorman said:

No it's not. It's just a myth. But let's give it to Brady. 6 championships in 20 years. Otto Graham. 7 championships in 10 years. Bart Starr, 5 championships in 7 years. Yeah, go with Brady. The problem is, too many people today never saw players like Starr play so they anoint who they know as GOAT. I'm not even sure I would have Brady in the top three. Maybe 3rd. And oh yeah, BTW, they all had good defenses in winning those championships. Rodgers on the Packers just goes to show you that no matter how good a QB is, they can't win it all without a good defense. Maybe once. But not twice.

OK, so let me get this straight...

1) You didn't want Favre, who was the main reason why we were a Super Bowl caliber team for the first time since 1998? And you're faulting him for Ponder ending up here, and not all the other terrible QBs they had around the Favre era?

2) Rodgers, despite playing out of his mind and winning MVP in 2020, isn't a good QB anymore?

3) Brady isn't the GOAT despite playing his butt off in nearly every playoff series the past 20 seasons, even after he left Belichick and immediately won a title elsewhere? And don't give me the "points allowed" argument, we already went over this many times and you were adamant the Patriots would be better this year than the Bucs this year.

Do you have any more bad QB opinions to share?

Show me one year Brady carried his team to the Super Bowl with a subpar defense. The only QB to do that twice isn't named Brady. And he will never be in the conversation of GOAT. Better yet, show me any QB WHO HAS DONE IT. Montana, Brady, Manning, Starr, Graham, Ben, Young. All have one thing in common when winning. Are they part of that yes. But if they don't have, they don't win. If it was all about the QB, Rodgers would have more rings than Jim McMahon. (Who BTW is the only other ex Packer Qb that has two. ) :)

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