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Mar 27, 2021 13:32:11 GMT -6 VikingsBoss said:

Mar 27, 2021 9:59:06 GMT -6 indianavikes said:

I can understand why this guy was so upset. In 1986 Vikings were leading until the last seconds Browns kicked a field goal to win. I was so angry and kicked the dog’s rawhide bone. The bone nearly hit my wife’s face. She was sitting on the couch knitting. About 6 inches from her face. There was a hole in the wall. This emotion and rage got best of me. I just lost it. She kicked me out of house to cool off. I walked around the block. Every game day my wife and kids were afraid. After each game they were checking on me how grouchy or very happy I was. While I was walking around the block, I realized that my OCD with Vikings could have done to my wife and kids. When I came to the house, I asked for their forgiveness. I told them I would never do again ever. To this day I still keep my words.

See, I am that way from the opening kick to the final gun. But, I have an uncanny ability to turn it off right away.

I go outside and mow the lawn, or rake the leaves, pull some weeds...heck, just go for a jog and listen to the whine lines. And I feel fine, I actually feel sorry for the people calling the whine lines and taking it so hard.

It's not that I don't care, I care a lot, but I can't see how fuming about a football game I didn't play in, and have no control over will help. Every one of my "Fire Zimmer, cut Cousins, leave the OL on the tarmac, f$&k everything" posts-with the rare exception-comes before the game is over and then I get on with my life.

That's where I am since the '98 NFC Championship. After going insane over that one I've given up on getting angry like that. If it starts going south I just turn it off and move on. I love this team and want them to do the best, but refuse to let them ruin my life.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 27, 2021 15:20:50 GMT -6 via mobile

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Mar 27, 2021 14:49:29 GMT -6 Brandon said:

Mar 27, 2021 13:32:11 GMT -6 VikingsBoss said:

See, I am that way from the opening kick to the final gun. But, I have an uncanny ability to turn it off right away.

I go outside and mow the lawn, or rake the leaves, pull some weeds...heck, just go for a jog and listen to the whine lines. And I feel fine, I actually feel sorry for the people calling the whine lines and taking it so hard.

It's not that I don't care, I care a lot, but I can't see how fuming about a football game I didn't play in, and have no control over will help. Every one of my "Fire Zimmer, cut Cousins, leave the OL on the tarmac, f$&k everything" posts-with the rare exception-comes before the game is over and then I get on with my life.

That's where I am since the '98 NFC Championship. After going insane over that one I've given up on getting angry like that. If it starts going south I just turn it off and move on. I love this team and want them to do the best, but refuse to let them ruin my life.

That game I’ll never forget. I was a junior in hs and was watching with my buddy, we lived in so cal. We both thought the Vikings were going to win that game and it just snowballed in the second half and the defense was terrible. I’ll never forget that feeling inside when the game ended on the missed kick. I yelled so loud I know the neighbors heard and was literally so mad every day for a month after that. I couldn’t believe it because I knew we were better than the falcons overall and would have beaten Denver. Then the saints game in 09 happened and I was living in Hawaii in Waikiki. I was screaming at all the missed calls by the refs and the illegal hits in favre. When the game ended I heard some saints fans down the street blowing their whistles and screaming The Who dat chant. I was kind of drunk and ready to scrap. I was waiting for one of them to come outside and walk down past my apartment. I was so mad.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 28, 2021 15:53:42 GMT -6

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DN: 2021 Minnesota Vikings Mock Draft Database, v6.0

The defensive linemen still hold the top spot as far as position groups go this week, as they make up 33 of the 80 selections in this week’s update. Their lead has dropped significantly, however. . .in last week’s update, they had a nearly 2-to-1 advantage over the next-highest position group, but their lead this week is not nearly as large. Gregory Rousseau continues to lead the way with 13 selections, and Kwity Paye is just behind him with 11. Rousseau’s teammate, Jaelan Phillips, hangs on to six selections this week as well.

Christian Barmore has just about disappeared, as he appears just twice in this week’s update. We speculated last week that the Vikings’ signing Dalvin Tomlinson would eat into his numbers, and that appears to be what’s happening. He may disappear entirely before too much longer. Jayson Oweh continues to hold on to his one selection as well.

The drop-off from the defensive linemen has pretty much correlated with a rise among the offensive linemen. The OL picked up 28 of our 80 selections this week, and Alijah Vera-Tucker is now the second-most selected player in our Database, racking up 12 picks this week. Christian Darrisaw is mocked to the Vikings eight times in this week’s update. Samuel Cosmi and Rashawn Slater continue their decent showings with four and three selections, respectively. And yes, thanks to Mel Kiper, we get to add the name of Oregon offensive tackle Penei Sewell to our Database for this year, as he picked up one selection in this week’s update.

The linebackers also picked up a few selections and reached double figures with 10 picks this week. The lead for that position group is split between Azeez Ojulari and Micah Parsons, each of whom is mocked to the Vikings four times this week. Dylan Moses and a new face to our Database, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, each appear one time this week as well.

Defensive backs account for five of our selections this week. Newcomer Trevon Moehrig-Woodard joins Caleb Farley with two selections each this week, while Patrick Surtain II maintained his one selection from last week’s update.

The pass catchers are down to just two selections this week. We had a swap of Alabama receivers, as Jaylen Waddle dropped out of our Database for this week and DeVonta Smith reappeared. Kyle Pitts is still hanging on to one selection as well.

And this week there were not one, but two brave mock drafters out there that had the Vikings selecting a quarterback at #14. . .and it was not Trey Lance, but rather Mac Jones of Alabama. I mean, I don’t see it, but what do I know?

The following players are new to the Database this week:

Oregon OT Penei Sewell
Notre Dame LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
TCU S Trevon Moehrig-Woodard
Alabama WR DeVonta Smith
Alabama QB Mac Jones

The following players dropped out of our Database in this week’s update:

Washington DT Levi Onwuzurike (for the second time)
Oklahoma DE Ronnie Perkins
Alabama WR Jaylen Waddle

With that, let’s get to the visuals, starting with the donut graph that breaks down this week’s update. You can see the blue area (representing the defensive line) is getting smaller, and Leon the red area (representing the offensive line) is getting larger. As always, you may click on the graph to embiggen it and more easily read the data.

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www.dailynorseman.com/2021/3/28/22355422/2021-minnesota-vikings-mock-draft-database-v6-0-nfl-draft

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 28, 2021 16:03:33 GMT -6

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Funkytown the more I think about it the more I am convinced we are taking a pass rusher. Man I am not high on Greg Rosseau but he might be the pick. Hope I am wrong, I do trust Andre with the Dline so if he thinks he can help him reach his potential.. nothing I can do but hope. Whoever we pick I just hope it is the right decision, on paper OL is the biggest need we do need one more rusher though. Kwity Paye or Jaelen Phillips(who I like) will also be in the mix. Just don't want the offense to fall off with only adding all the resources on defense. Can't neglect the offense totally like that. We going defense unless we sign EV or Clowney which I doubt at the moment. I remember Zimmer saying he wants pass rushers plural and we haven't added many so it will likely be a pass rusher. I want OL but I have a feeling they won't address OL like I want in round 1. That is likely the reality so I might as well be ready for it though I don't agree. It takes rushers a few years usually to become elite if they do. OL is easier to get a instant plug and play early.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 28, 2021 16:37:23 GMT -6 via mobile Funkytown, andhesloose28, and 1 more like this

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Mar 28, 2021 16:03:33 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

Funkytown the more I think about it the more I am convinced we are taking a pass rusher. Man I am not high on Greg Rosseau but he might be the pick. Hope I am wrong, I do trust Andre with the Dline so if he thinks he can help him reach his potential.. nothing I can do but hope. Whoever we pick I just hope it is the right decision, on paper OL is the biggest need we do need one more rusher though. Kwity Paye or Jaelen Phillips(who I like) will also be in the mix. Just don't want the offense to fall off with only adding all the resources on defense. Can't neglect the offense totally like that. We going defense unless we sign EV or Clowney which I doubt at the moment. I remember Zimmer saying he wants pass rushers plural and we haven't added many so it will likely be a pass rusher. I want OL but I have a feeling they won't address OL like I want in round 1. That is likely the reality so I might as well be ready for it though I don't agree. It takes rushers a few years usually to become elite if they do. OL is easier to get a instant plug and play early.

I personally believe they're trying to get to a place where they can go BPA. They've been fairly systemic about finding a veteran to put in every hole possible. Maybe not a great one, but at least someone who can keep their head above water or compete. I believe that we'll see them either get a LT, RT or a OG before the draft. That will give them options to move O'Neill or Cleveland if needed.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 29, 2021 10:34:24 GMT -6 Funkytown and wivikesfan like this

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Post by marksp18 on Mar 29, 2021 10:34:24 GMT -6

I think the Vikings will take a pass rusher as well. They tried to sign Carl Lawson and Trey Hendrickson AFTER they signed Weatherly which indicates they believe it is a significant need.

Jason Oweh blew the doors off his pro day when he had these numbers ...

Height - 6'4.7"
Weight - 257
40 time - 4.37
20 split - 2.59
10 split - 1.59
Short shuttle - 4.2
3 cone - 6.9
Vertical - 39.5"
Broad - 11'2"
Bench - 21
Arm - 34.5"

... that is freaking incredible. If ever they were going to clone Hunter, Oweh is pretty close.

The knocks on Oweh are that he did not play football in high school except for one year and that he had very little production (sacks) in college.

Hunter also did not have very much production in college.

After finding Hunter, the Vikings and other teams will covet this type of player because of Hunter's success.

Oweh has an incredibly high ceiling.

Let Patterson get his hands on him and lookout!

I like Hunter and Oweh coming off the edges.

I like that a lot.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 29, 2021 16:09:10 GMT -6

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Rousseau's flashes on film and his incredible length may still result in him being a first-round pick next month. But the rawness and lack of elite athleticism should scare away the Vikings, particularly at No. 14 overall. They need an instant contributor with their first-round pick, and I think Rousseau is too risky. If he falls into the third round, I'd be much more intrigued in seeing what Andre Patterson could turn him into, but I'd imagine that's unlikely.

Phillips has been on the opposite trajectory. He's gone from being a presumptive Day 2 pick to working his way firmly into the first round conversation, and is someone I like a lot more for the Vikings.

Phillips is a fascinating prospect. He was the No. 1 overall recruit in the country in the class of 2017, generating a ton of hype when he committed to UCLA. However, his two seasons with the Bruins were ravaged by injuries, and he medically retired from football following his sophomore season. But Phillips decided to give it another shot, transferring to Miami and putting it all together in 2020. He was absolutely dominant over the Canes' final seven games, putting up nine sacks and 36 pressures during that span (per PFF).

What separates Phillips from Rousseau is his tape against offensive tackles, specifically when it comes to his powerful hands and variety of pass rushing moves.

And then there's his athleticism. Phillips was the overwhelming winner of Miami's pro day on Monday, demonstrating elite speed, quickness, and explosiveness. His 40-yard dash, short shuttle, three cone, and broad jumps were all above the 90th percentile among edge rushers.

Phillips' 2020 tape showed a first-round talent, but the medical concerns were very real — and still are. Combine that tape with his pro day numbers and you can make a very compelling argument that he should be the top edge rusher off the board and a potential top-ten pick. It's all going to come down to teams' medical evaluations and how much of a risk they're willing to take that he stays healthy in the NFL.

If Phillips is available at 14 or after a trade-back by the Vikings, I'd have to imagine Spielman will think long and hard about the possibility of pairing him with Hunter, which would essentially be the last piece of the puzzle of their 2021 defense. If Spielman is going to finally break his tendency and take an EDGE in round one, it should be Phillips or Paye or perhaps Azeez Ojulari — not Rousseau.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 29, 2021 16:54:51 GMT -6 via mobile

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Mar 29, 2021 16:09:10 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Rousseau's flashes on film and his incredible length may still result in him being a first-round pick next month. But the rawness and lack of elite athleticism should scare away the Vikings, particularly at No. 14 overall. They need an instant contributor with their first-round pick, and I think Rousseau is too risky. If he falls into the third round, I'd be much more intrigued in seeing what Andre Patterson could turn him into, but I'd imagine that's unlikely.

Phillips has been on the opposite trajectory. He's gone from being a presumptive Day 2 pick to working his way firmly into the first round conversation, and is someone I like a lot more for the Vikings.

Phillips is a fascinating prospect. He was the No. 1 overall recruit in the country in the class of 2017, generating a ton of hype when he committed to UCLA. However, his two seasons with the Bruins were ravaged by injuries, and he medically retired from football following his sophomore season. But Phillips decided to give it another shot, transferring to Miami and putting it all together in 2020. He was absolutely dominant over the Canes' final seven games, putting up nine sacks and 36 pressures during that span (per PFF).

What separates Phillips from Rousseau is his tape against offensive tackles, specifically when it comes to his powerful hands and variety of pass rushing moves.

And then there's his athleticism. Phillips was the overwhelming winner of Miami's pro day on Monday, demonstrating elite speed, quickness, and explosiveness. His 40-yard dash, short shuttle, three cone, and broad jumps were all above the 90th percentile among edge rushers.

Phillips' 2020 tape showed a first-round talent, but the medical concerns were very real — and still are. Combine that tape with his pro day numbers and you can make a very compelling argument that he should be the top edge rusher off the board and a potential top-ten pick. It's all going to come down to teams' medical evaluations and how much of a risk they're willing to take that he stays healthy in the NFL.

If Phillips is available at 14 or after a trade-back by the Vikings, I'd have to imagine Spielman will think long and hard about the possibility of pairing him with Hunter, which would essentially be the last piece of the puzzle of their 2021 defense. If Spielman is going to finally break his tendency and take an EDGE in round one, it should be Phillips or Paye or perhaps Azeez Ojulari — not Rousseau.

Agreed phillips is the only edge guy I would take in round one. Rosseau would be the third guy down the list for edge rushers. I think paye is second. Phillips loves football too and is passionate about it. Only reason he retired after is sophomore year was due to injuries. But I still think oline round one is the place to go. At 14 darrisaw should be the pick assuming slater is already gone.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 29, 2021 18:36:38 GMT -6 via mobile

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Mar 29, 2021 10:34:24 GMT -6 marksp18 said:

I think the Vikings will take a pass rusher as well. They tried to sign Carl Lawson and Trey Hendrickson AFTER they signed Weatherly which indicates they believe it is a significant need.

Jason Oweh blew the doors off his pro day when he had these numbers ...

Height - 6'4.7"
Weight - 257
40 time - 4.37
20 split - 2.59
10 split - 1.59
Short shuttle - 4.2
3 cone - 6.9
Vertical - 39.5"
Broad - 11'2"
Bench - 21
Arm - 34.5"

... that is freaking incredible. If ever they were going to clone Hunter, Oweh is pretty close.

The knocks on Oweh are that he did not play football in high school except for one year and that he had very little production (sacks) in college.

Hunter also did not have very much production in college.

After finding Hunter, the Vikings and other teams will covet this type of player because of Hunter's success.

Oweh has an incredibly high ceiling.

Let Patterson get his hands on him and lookout!

I like Hunter and Oweh coming off the edges.

I like that a lot.

I don't know how you take a guy this raw at 14. Seems like a great prospect, but that's way too early for a guy that's years away from maybe being a great player.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 29, 2021 23:50:11 GMT -6

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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 23:50:11 GMT -6

Funkytown I will be highly pissed if we take Rosseau in RD1. I just have a bad feeling about him Phillips is much better and Paye too than him. He Treadwell bust to me. If we take him I will hope I am wrong. I put this on my kids I knew Treadwell would be sorry I swear. I get that feeling about Rosseau we can't take him. My gut says no, I been told y'all that along time ago. Now some others see what I been seeing. Pass on him please Vikes. I am not perfect or God and could be wrong, but 8 out of 10 if I feel this strongly about something I am right most the time. My eyes don't lie much he overhyped I studied the film on him. Unless he has some hidden potential not uncovered when I watched him he not the one for us. I will admit if I am wrong.

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I don't understand why we refuse to address the Oline in RD1? But if we must ignore the OL yet again you better take Phillips or Paye most definitely not Rosseau. I stand by that statement, and will admit to being wrong if he become a star. I am not seeing it.

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With The 14th Pick, Your Minnesota Vikings Select... Mar 30, 2021 7:45:57 GMT -6

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Mar 30, 2021 0:05:28 GMT -6 @justmy2cents said:

I don't understand why we refuse to address the Oline in RD1? But if we must ignore the OL yet again you better take Phillips or Paye most definitely not Rosseau. I stand by that statement, and will admit to being wrong if he become a star. I am not seeing it.

I dont think they will take Rosseau at 14, maybe if we trade down into the 20s. Rick probably creamed his pants watching Phillips workout. At this point im thinking its either OT or DE in round 1 and they will probably play the board and go based off of who is there. If Slater is somehow there at 14 I think theyll take, after yesterday I wouldnt be surprised if Philips is the pick as well. My head says OL should be the 100% pick, but im not going to lie Paye or Philips added to this line would be something possibly special. Good luck Kirk (roflmao)