Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next?

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 4, 2021 17:43:51 GMT -6

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Feb 4, 2021 17:27:23 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Feb 4, 2021 16:34:07 GMT -6 Minniman said:

Bieniemy ran a crappy offense at Colorado in his only go round as a real OC. Why should we believe he is going to be great in the NFL? He is in the exact same position as Childress was before he came here. Will Bieniemy be running his own KAO in the future?

I threw out a guess on who the new OC was going to be for us a few weeks back. Interested to see who gets the position.

Bieniemy has Vikings connections, so I expect him to be a candidate if the Chiefs allow it. The Vikings could name him assistant head coach if they really wanted to bring him in as OC. Perhaps, that could be why they have not moved to announce an OC.

Note here that while Bieniemy does have experience as a Vikings coach, he does not have experience with Zimmer. One should also note that Eric's final year with Minnesota was as "assistant head coach/running backs coach" in 2010 - a season which the Vikings offense took a huge step backwards.

Bieniemy does have experience with many NFL offensive schemes, so hopefully he has learned a lot in the process. We won't really know until he runs his own offense at this level. It isn't like Colorado was a college powerhouse for recruiting, and that can make a huge difference at that level.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 4, 2021 20:19:52 GMT -6 Reignman and Funkytown like this

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Feb 4, 2021 11:36:11 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Zimmer wants to have a chat with Eric Bieniemy after the SB.

I don't see Zimmer bringing in a guy who has been a candidate for HC jobs the past 2 seasons and will be again next year.

Why invite a guy into the building who is a threat to take your job? And why hire a guy who may only last one year?

Only reason Eric gets an interview is to satisfy the Rooney rule.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 4, 2021 22:04:33 GMT -6

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Post by vikingpwr on Feb 4, 2021 22:04:33 GMT -6

Feb 4, 2021 20:19:52 GMT -6 @aussie61 said:

Feb 4, 2021 11:36:11 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Zimmer wants to have a chat with Eric Bieniemy after the SB.

I don't see Zimmer bringing in a guy who has been a candidate for HC jobs the past 2 seasons and will be again next year.

Why invite a guy into the building who is a threat to take your job? And why hire a guy who may only last one year?

Only reason Eric gets an interview is to satisfy the Rooney rule.

Mike Zimmer is 64 years old.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 4, 2021 22:28:24 GMT -6

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Post by vikingpwr on Feb 4, 2021 22:28:24 GMT -6

Feb 4, 2021 17:43:51 GMT -6 Minniman said:

Feb 4, 2021 17:27:23 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

I threw out a guess on who the new OC was going to be for us a few weeks back. Interested to see who gets the position.

Bieniemy has Vikings connections, so I expect him to be a candidate if the Chiefs allow it. The Vikings could name him assistant head coach if they really wanted to bring him in as OC. Perhaps, that could be why they have not moved to announce an OC.

Note here that while Bieniemy does have experience as a Vikings coach, he does not have experience with Zimmer. One should also note that Eric's final year with Minnesota was as "assistant head coach/running backs coach" in 2010 - a season which the Vikings offense took a huge step backwards.

Bieniemy does have experience with many NFL offensive schemes, so hopefully he has learned a lot in the process. We won't really know until he runs his own offense at this level. It isn't like Colorado was a college powerhouse for recruiting, and that can make a huge difference at that level.

Mike Zimmer is 64 years old and he ain't gonna be here much longer.

Eric has been coaching for the last 20 years. He has experience. Giving him a job might be in the best interest for the Vikings. Would it hurt?

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 4, 2021 23:51:50 GMT -6 Funkytown likes this

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Feb 4, 2021 22:04:33 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Feb 4, 2021 20:19:52 GMT -6 @aussie61 said:

I don't see Zimmer bringing in a guy who has been a candidate for HC jobs the past 2 seasons and will be again next year.

Why invite a guy into the building who is a threat to take your job? And why hire a guy who may only last one year?

Only reason Eric gets an interview is to satisfy the Rooney rule.

Mike Zimmer is 64 years old.

Belichick & Carroll are both 69,Arians is 67

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 7:33:25 GMT -6 suncoastvike and legendsofthenorth like this

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Post by diehardtwinsfan on Feb 5, 2021 7:33:25 GMT -6

my concern on Biemany is that he's basically Reid's George Edwards... kind of like Childress. I wouldn't be against giving him the OC role here because if he could take our offense to the next level, my next step would be to fire Zimmer and promote him... I don't like the idea though of making him a HC... that one has disaster written all over it.

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Feb 4, 2021 23:51:50 GMT -6 @aussie61 said:

Feb 4, 2021 22:04:33 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Mike Zimmer is 64 years old.

Belichick & Carroll are both 69,Arians is 67

SB champ, SB champ, playing in the SB tomorrow

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 9:53:37 GMT -6 Funkytown likes this

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Feb 4, 2021 22:04:33 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Feb 4, 2021 20:19:52 GMT -6 @aussie61 said:

I don't see Zimmer bringing in a guy who has been a candidate for HC jobs the past 2 seasons and will be again next year.

Why invite a guy into the building who is a threat to take your job? And why hire a guy who may only last one year?

Only reason Eric gets an interview is to satisfy the Rooney rule.

Mike Zimmer is 64 years old.

He is a 64 year old who has done nothing in his life but football. He will coach until no one his willing to hire him anymore.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 9:55:38 GMT -6 Funkytown likes this

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Post by VikingsBoss on Feb 5, 2021 9:55:38 GMT -6

Feb 5, 2021 7:33:25 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

my concern on Biemany is that he's basically Reid's George Edwards... kind of like Childress. I wouldn't be against giving him the OC role here because if he could take our offense to the next level, my next step would be to fire Zimmer and promote him... I don't like the idea though of making him a HC... that one has disaster written all over it.

So, making him a Head Coach has "disaster written all over it" but the sentence before you say that if the offense had success under him you'd "fire Zimmer and promote him."

Which is it?

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 12:31:02 GMT -6

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Feb 5, 2021 9:53:37 GMT -6 VikingsBoss said:

Feb 4, 2021 22:04:33 GMT -6 vikingpwr said:

Mike Zimmer is 64 years old.

He is a 64 year old who has done nothing in his life but football. He will coach until no one his willing to hire him anymore.

I don't believe he will coach after the Vikings. Like many things I claim to think on here I could be totally wrong.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 13:35:58 GMT -6

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Post by diehardtwinsfan on Feb 5, 2021 13:35:58 GMT -6

Feb 5, 2021 9:55:38 GMT -6 VikingsBoss said:

Feb 5, 2021 7:33:25 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

my concern on Biemany is that he's basically Reid's George Edwards... kind of like Childress. I wouldn't be against giving him the OC role here because if he could take our offense to the next level, my next step would be to fire Zimmer and promote him... I don't like the idea though of making him a HC... that one has disaster written all over it.

So, making him a Head Coach has "disaster written all over it" but the sentence before you say that if the offense had success under him you'd "fire Zimmer and promote him."

Which is it?

my point is that I'd make him a head coach if he demonstrated that he could do something with offense that he was truly in charge of. He would not, however, be my top choice for HC right now.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 14:17:27 GMT -6

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Post by vikingpwr on Feb 5, 2021 14:17:27 GMT -6

Feb 5, 2021 8:23:15 GMT -6 macvikings said:

Feb 4, 2021 23:51:50 GMT -6 @aussie61 said:

Belichick & Carroll are both 69,Arians is 67

SB champ, SB champ, playing in the SB tomorrow

Thank you........you beat me to the punch. Zimmer has failed to lead a Viking team to a Super Bowl. Despite what most say about the Wilfs, that they're content with 8-8 mediocrity, Zimmer and his old ass will be gone and replaced by a much younger HC sooner than we think if he can't get this team back in contention. Remember, there ain't no salary cap on coaches so the Wilfs can fire him whenever they want. If Zimmer fails to get this team to the playoffs in 2021 I truly think the Wilfs will fire him AND I seriously doubt another team will be willing to hire him as a HC.

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 14:19:29 GMT -6 vikingpwr likes this

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Kevin Stefanski grateful for year spent with Gary Kubiak

Kevin Stefanski was a contender for the Browns head coaching job in 2019. It went to Freddie Kitchens, who was fired after Cleveland went 6-10.

The Browns hired Stefanski last January, ostensibly correcting their mistake. But Stefanski feels he benefited greatly from spending one more year in Minnesota because he shared the 2019 season with Gary Kubiak.

The former Broncos and Texans head coach was an assistant head coach and offensive advisor for Minnesota, with Stefanski as the team’s offensive coordinator. Stefanski had taken over the position on an interim basis midway through 2018, and head coach Mike Zimmer removed the interim tag for the following year.

And now after his first season as the Browns head coach — during which the club went to the playoffs for the first time since 2002 and won its first playoff game since 1994 — Stefanski credits Kubiak for helping prepare him for success with his offensive scheme.

“For years, that scheme has been very hard on defenses, when you talk about defending the run game and the play-action game,” Stefanski said in an interview with Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com. “I had never been in that scheme specifically. I’ve been in other ones, and I had my own thoughts about the run game and play-action game, but to be able to be exposed to coach Kub and the different nuance that he had into those plays was incredible for me.”

Stefanski says he was able to lean on Kubiak throughout 2019, and continued to do so in 2020 with the two talking nearly ever week. Kubiak credited Stefanski for having “zero ego” and being so willing to take and implement feedback.

“Not many people are lucky enough to have a setup like that,” Stefanski said. “It was such a valuable year for me to grow. I’m thrilled that I was able to have that opportunity under coach Zim, with coach Kub. It really made me better.”

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profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/05/kevin-stefanski-grateful-for-year-spent-with-gary-kubiak/

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Vikings OC Gary Kubiak To Retire - Who's Next? Feb 5, 2021 14:23:23 GMT -6

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Feb 5, 2021 14:19:29 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Kevin Stefanski grateful for year spent with Gary Kubiak

Kevin Stefanski was a contender for the Browns head coaching job in 2019. It went to Freddie Kitchens, who was fired after Cleveland went 6-10.

The Browns hired Stefanski last January, ostensibly correcting their mistake. But Stefanski feels he benefited greatly from spending one more year in Minnesota because he shared the 2019 season with Gary Kubiak.

The former Broncos and Texans head coach was an assistant head coach and offensive advisor for Minnesota, with Stefanski as the team’s offensive coordinator. Stefanski had taken over the position on an interim basis midway through 2018, and head coach Mike Zimmer removed the interim tag for the following year.

And now after his first season as the Browns head coach — during which the club went to the playoffs for the first time since 2002 and won its first playoff game since 1994 — Stefanski credits Kubiak for helping prepare him for success with his offensive scheme.

“For years, that scheme has been very hard on defenses, when you talk about defending the run game and the play-action game,” Stefanski said in an interview with Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com. “I had never been in that scheme specifically. I’ve been in other ones, and I had my own thoughts about the run game and play-action game, but to be able to be exposed to coach Kub and the different nuance that he had into those plays was incredible for me.”

Stefanski says he was able to lean on Kubiak throughout 2019, and continued to do so in 2020 with the two talking nearly ever week. Kubiak credited Stefanski for having “zero ego” and being so willing to take and implement feedback.

“Not many people are lucky enough to have a setup like that,” Stefanski said. “It was such a valuable year for me to grow. I’m thrilled that I was able to have that opportunity under coach Zim, with coach Kub. It really made me better.”

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profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/05/kevin-stefanski-grateful-for-year-spent-with-gary-kubiak/

Nice! I like Stefanski and I'm glad to see him flourish in Cleveland.

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