Week 12 - Panthers @ Vikings Support Group

Nov 23, 2020 16:48:30 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Poor Teddy:

Nemmy beat me to it, but yeah, if only the QB had some say in how his receivers grade. *whistle*

Poor Teddy, always has lousy receivers, but RB's who finish with a ton of YAC.

Nov 23, 2020 18:15:50 GMT -6 HunterMorrow said:

PJ Walker had a fumble and threw an interception against the Lions so we could beat him

We should have no problem against Dalton too ... oh wait.

Nov 23, 2020 22:16:30 GMT -6 PurpleKoolaid said:

I know a lot of people that wish we had initially kept Teddy.

Yeah those same people are content with being 9-7 every year too.

Nov 24, 2020 8:46:11 GMT -6 Danchat said:

Offensively yes, but with their defense who knows if they win or not. I'd guess Carolina scores 28-35 points.

Oooooo is Dan taking shots now too? Sassy.

Nov 24, 2020 20:22:55 GMT -6 Danchat said:

I don't expect McCaffrey to play, but Bridgewater is trending in the right direction.

Trending in the same direction like Zimmers defense? (roflmao)

Nov 25, 2020 16:01:23 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

Teddy vs 6% Kurt...... I don't like our chances......

0% vs 6%? Well we are the job savers again, so I can see us getting Special Ted up to 1%. His first career game winning drive.

Nov 26, 2020 9:08:15 GMT -6 legendsofthenorth said:

Correct. Been saying it for years. His vision was a top 5 defense and Teddy controlling the game. That's how he wanted to build his team.

Yeah that's a good way to build a 9-7, at least we're not Detroit, 1979, job security kinda team. Too bad we didn't hire a coach who wants to build a modern era championship team.

What's a modern era championship team look like?

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Week 12 - Panthers @ Vikings Support Group Nov 26, 2020 20:04:39 GMT -6

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Post by whoskmoon on Nov 26, 2020 20:04:39 GMT -6

Nemmy beat me to it, but yeah, if only the QB had some say in how his receivers grade. *whistle*

Poor Teddy, always has lousy receivers, but RB's who finish with a ton of YAC.

? Teddy's top 2 receivers are both in the top 10 in receiving yards and 3 of his receivers are having career years. We are 11 games in and Robby Anderson has the 2nd most yards of his career and might pass his 2017 total against the Vikings this Sunday. I asked Nemmy if that was good and he changed the subject and insinuated QB wins is the most important stat. Weird.

Nov 25, 2020 16:01:23 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

Teddy vs 6% Kurt...... I don't like our chances......

0% vs 6%? Well we are the job savers again, so I can see us getting Special Ted up to 1%. His first career game winning drive.

He has 6 on his career, including 2 in just 5 starts last year. This year he has not been good in a big spot, but at least he isn't going 4 and out against the Cowboys.

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Nov 26, 2020 19:50:24 GMT -6 legendsofthenorth said:

Nemmy beat me to it, but yeah, if only the QB had some say in how his receivers grade. *whistle*

Poor Teddy, always has lousy receivers, but RB's who finish with a ton of YAC.

We should have no problem against Dalton too ... oh wait.

Yeah those same people are content with being 9-7 every year too.

Oooooo is Dan taking shots now too? Sassy.

Trending in the same direction like Zimmers defense? (roflmao)

0% vs 6%? Well we are the job savers again, so I can see us getting Special Ted up to 1%. His first career game winning drive.

Yeah that's a good way to build a 9-7, at least we're not Detroit, 1979, job security kinda team. Too bad we didn't hire a coach who wants to build a modern era championship team.

What's a modern era championship team look like?

Only one with a SB win, duh? :)

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Week 12 - Panthers @ Vikings Support Group Nov 26, 2020 20:18:20 GMT -6 comet52 likes this

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Post by Reignman on Nov 26, 2020 20:18:20 GMT -6

Nemmy beat me to it, but yeah, if only the QB had some say in how his receivers grade. *whistle*

Poor Teddy, always has lousy receivers, but RB's who finish with a ton of YAC.

So year 7 and Special Ted finally learned how to pad stats in garbage time? *lol*

0% vs 6%? Well we are the job savers again, so I can see us getting Special Ted up to 1%. His first career game winning drive.

He has 6 on his career, including 2 in just 5 starts last year.

Well yeah, if you go by that propaganda that gives a QB credit for being under center at any point in the 4th quarter when his team takes a lead. I'm talking about final drive, needing a TD or FG to tie/win. Special Ted has ZERO.

This year he has not been good in a big spot, but at least he isn't going 4 and out against the Cowboys.

You must have me confused with Cousins last remaining fan Raptorman *lol*

Aug 8, 2024 18:42:12 GMT -6 whoskmoon said:

if sitting and watching something versus actually doing it made a person great at it, Reignman would be the next Ron Jeremy.

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Nov 26, 2020 20:06:38 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Nov 26, 2020 19:50:24 GMT -6 legendsofthenorth said:

What's a modern era championship team look like?

Only one with a SB win, duh? :)

Huh....how do you build a MODERN DAY Superbowl team. By your comment I can only assume you know how?

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Week 12 - Panthers @ Vikings Support Group Nov 26, 2020 20:20:37 GMT -6

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Also PFF grades for WRs should technically be the same regardless of the QB:

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The PFF grading system credits receivers for creating big plays and elevating the play of the offense, while it downgrades for poor ball skills and poor route running. Receivers who consistently beat man and zone coverage, win contested catches or create yards after the catch will grade well in the PFF system. Receivers who fail to separate, fail to catch the ball consistently or fail to create after the catch will grade poorly.

We see this pretty clearly with Diggs, who's grade has fluctuated between 78 and 83 with 5 different starting QBs throwing him the football. He is around an 80 receiver despite multiple systems and QBs because he is a good receiver.

A poorly thrown football will not negatively impact a WRs grade, but a very well thrown ball like Rodgers is capable of might improve it. Which is why Adams being #1 is mostly Rodgers, while Thielen and Jefferson being 2 and 3 is mostly them. They make their QB look better while Rodgers makes his WRs look better than they actually are.

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Nov 26, 2020 16:38:16 GMT -6 diehardtwinsfan said:

Nov 25, 2020 21:58:04 GMT -6 Danchat said:

I can't remember the last time a decent HB was traded... hmmmm... *skeptic*

*remembers that the Texans acquired David Johnson and a 2nd for DeAndre Hopkins* *bash*

Not a good example there. As for Mattison, they could probably get a 5th rounder, maybe 4th rounder but that would be stretching it.

There was this guy named Walker that got traded for a kings ransom.

Clinton Portis got traded for Champ Bailey straight up too.

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Week 12 - Panthers @ Vikings Support Group Nov 26, 2020 20:34:58 GMT -6

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Nov 26, 2020 20:18:20 GMT -6 Reignman said:

So year 7 and Special Ted finally learned how to pad stats in garbage time? *lol*

He has only lost two games this season by multiple scores and most have come down to close ones at the end. Very little garbage time opportunities, especially since one of those two games he wasn't even in there for the final two drives.

It is actually good you don't know any of this, and means that you have moved on from an unhealthy dislike of Teddy. Outside of the childish nickname that is.

Nov 26, 2020 20:18:20 GMT -6 Reignman said:

He has 6 on his career, including 2 in just 5 starts last year.

That also isn't true.
www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201511010chi.htm

He also had an OT win where his TD pass won the game:
www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201412070min.htm
In that game he lead a drive that put us in range of a FG and we missed

Nov 26, 2020 20:18:20 GMT -6 Reignman said:

This year he has not been good in a big spot, but at least he isn't going 4 and out against the Cowboys.

You must have me confused with Cousins last remaining fan Raptorman *lol*

I know you don't like Cousins, but I try to keep it relevant to the current team.

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Post by Reignman on Nov 26, 2020 21:25:03 GMT -6

It is actually good you don't know any of this, and means that you have moved on from an unhealthy dislike of Teddy.

I-know-right?! Now if only some of you would move on from your unhealthy like of a former Vikings QB who has never been in the top 20 of any statistical category that Homer Nick didn't invent.

Why do you think he has a childish nickname? He's not very good, so he must be special.

That also isn't true.

Ooooo you mean that 5 yard pass where Diggs broke 8 tackles and took to the house? Watch out for Teddy Brady over here.

He also had an OT win where his TD pass won the game:

Is this the best you got lol? Now a 2 yard screen pass to Wright where he broke 7 tackles and raced a couple fat linemen 87 yards for a TD? Nothing more than a long handoff.

In that game he lead a drive that put us in range of a FG and we missed

Playing fast and loose with the word "range" here aren't we lol? Got them to within a 56 yard chip shot. You sure went digging for these handful of plays in an attempt to rewrite history. We should talk about your unhealthy obsession with a stop gap QB who is never going to help anyone fill the trophy case.

Aug 8, 2024 18:42:12 GMT -6 whoskmoon said:

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Nov 26, 2020 21:25:03 GMT -6 Reignman said:

It is actually good you don't know any of this, and means that you have moved on from an unhealthy dislike of Teddy.

I-know-right?! Now if only some of you would move on from your unhealthy like of a former Vikings QB who has never been in the top 20 of any statistical category that Homer Nick didn't invent.

Why do you think he has a childish nickname? He's not very good, so he must be special.

That also isn't true.

Ooooo you mean that 5 yard pass where Diggs broke 8 tackles and took to the house? Watch out for Teddy Brady over here.

He also had an OT win where his TD pass won the game:

Is this the best you got lol? Now a 2 yard screen pass to Wright where he broke 7 tackles and raced a couple fat linemen 87 yards for a TD? Nothing more than a long handoff.