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Nov 1, 2020 20:25:54 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

Drank...... how much of it is scheme?

I need your thoughts on this...... bc Kubiak, love him or not, has a Looooooong history of popping out 1,200+ yard RBs......... or are ALL of those RBs special talents too?

Brother look at the tape please, he breaks tackles, uses speed, vision, and cuts. Come on Boz I know you don't like him but you gotta be for real. He is a top 5 back. Only problem and difference between he and AP is AP will last longer. You gotta be reasonable kid is special. Health is a concern but he is clearly special and carried us this game. You act like this the first time he ever balled too. Please Please be reasonable please.

I never denied he's a talent...... altho, I do believe his talent is overrated. I consider him a slightly above average starting NFL RB..... who has benefitted greatly from Kubiak's RB-friendly scheme...... the scheme has elevated him to look like a top 5 guy, which IMO he isn't. Slater looked great at one point in that scheme..... so did Anderson and others... I can't get on board with a guy we can't count on regularly. Look at Sean Lee.... he's a talented LB. Slightly above average,, but very solid player at his position.... but Cowboys can't rely on him.... it's a problem.... they say availablility is the best ability for a reason...... trying to think of a Vikings example. But struggling.... maybe Raonall Smith? Idk

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Nov 1, 2020 21:03:39 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

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Brother look at the tape please, he breaks tackles, uses speed, vision, and cuts. Come on Boz I know you don't like him but you gotta be for real. He is a top 5 back. Only problem and difference between he and AP is AP will last longer. You gotta be reasonable kid is special. Health is a concern but he is clearly special and carried us this game. You act like this the first time he ever balled too. Please Please be reasonable please.

I never denied he's a talent...... altho, I do believe his talent is overrated. I consider him a slightly above average starting NFL RB..... who has benefitted greatly from Kubiak's RB-friendly scheme...... the scheme has elevated him to look like a top 5 guy, which IMO he isn't. Slater looked great at one point in that scheme..... so did Anderson and others... I can't get on board with a guy we can't count on regularly. Look at Sean Lee.... he's a talented LB. Slightly above average,, but very solid player at his position.... but Cowboys can't rely on him.... it's a problem.... they say availablility is the best ability for a reason...... trying to think of a Vikings example. But struggling.... maybe Raonall Smith? Idk

Dalvin was good before Kubiak bro. He starter off on a tear rookie year. Started stronger then even AP he got hurt. I disagree Cook had talent before Kubiak🤷🏾‍♂️ Health was always the only problem. You just hate him and don't like to admit you wrong. My dawg 😂 You be flipping I not saying injury you don't think he has great talent you just stated that above. I don't understand what your eyes seeing. He creates on his own a lot of times. Mattison is not as good 😂

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I never denied he's a talent...... altho, I do believe his talent is overrated. I consider him a slightly above average starting NFL RB..... who has benefitted greatly from Kubiak's RB-friendly scheme...... the scheme has elevated him to look like a top 5 guy, which IMO he isn't. Slater looked great at one point in that scheme..... so did Anderson and others... I can't get on board with a guy we can't count on regularly. Look at Sean Lee.... he's a talented LB. Slightly above average,, but very solid player at his position.... but Cowboys can't rely on him.... it's a problem.... they say availablility is the best ability for a reason...... trying to think of a Vikings example. But struggling.... maybe Raonall Smith? Idk

Dalvin was good before Kursk bro. He starter off on a tear rookie year. Started stronger then even AP he got hurt. I disagree Cook had talent before Kubiak🤷🏾‍♂️ Health was always the only problem. You just hate him and don't like to admit you wrong. My dawg 😂

🤣🤣 Robert Smith? Michael Bennett? Any of these examples good? Lol

He had a damn good game today...........

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Nov 1, 2020 21:10:22 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

Nov 1, 2020 21:07:54 GMT -6 @jefferson18 said:

Dalvin was good before Kursk bro. He starter off on a tear rookie year. Started stronger then even AP he got hurt. I disagree Cook had talent before Kubiak🤷🏾‍♂️ Health was always the only problem. You just hate him and don't like to admit you wrong. My dawg 😂

🤣🤣 Robert Smith? Michael Bennett? Any of these examples good? Lol

He had a damn good game today...........

Michael Bennett was straight line speed 1 good year not cuts. Smith got hurt. I consider Smith one of our best backs though too. Smith was a different type back to me.

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Nov 1, 2020 21:15:12 GMT -6 @jefferson18 said:

Nov 1, 2020 21:10:22 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

🤣🤣 Robert Smith? Michael Bennett? Any of these examples good? Lol

He had a damn good game today...........

Michael Bennett was straight line speed 1 good year not cuts. Smith got hurt. I consider Smith one of our best backs though too. Smith was a different type back to me.

I'm talking injury proneness comparisons. Not playing style. And not overall quality

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I never denied he's a talent...... altho, I do believe his talent is overrated. I consider him a slightly above average starting NFL RB..... who has benefitted greatly from Kubiak's RB-friendly scheme.

That looks like denial pimp. You don't believe in the talent. Robert Smith had 4 damn good years for us you might wanna revisit his skills one of our better backs we ever had. Bennett had world class speed but no vision or cuts one good year. Dalvin on his second great year. He special like AP. AP obviously is better but only because he has more body armor and staying power. Dalvin is better all around. He will be good until around 28. So he can't touch AP. Mattison is not as talented period. Bennett never got TDs neither he had no power. Cook stronger then he looks too you tripping. What I just said is facts check the stats somebody see if this post is lies or facts. Dalvin already ahead of Bennett as all time Viking greats. Smith was good for 4 yrs at least check the stats.

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Nov 1, 2020 21:25:30 GMT -6 @jefferson18 said:

Nov 1, 2020 21:03:39 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

I never denied he's a talent...... altho, I do believe his talent is overrated. I consider him a slightly above average starting NFL RB..... who has benefitted greatly from Kubiak's RB-friendly scheme.

That looks like denial pimp. You don't believe in the talent. Robert Smith had 4 damn good years for us you might wanna revisit his skills one of our better backs we ever had. Bennett had world class speed but no vision or cuts one good year. Dalvin on his second great year. He special like AP. AP obviously is better but only because he has more body armor and staying power. Dalvin is better all around. He will be good until around 28. So he can't touch AP. Mattison is not as talented period. Bennett never got TDs neither he had no power. Cook stronger then he looks too you tripping. What I just said is facts check the stats somebody see if this post is lies or facts. Dalvin already ahead of Bennett as all time Viking greats. Smith was good for 4 yrs at least check the stats.

Lol u misunderstood me. I only brought up Smith (I know how great he was) and Bennet for comparison in only one area --- injury proneness........ in that one area, Cook compares to them two on some level.....

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Nov 1, 2020 21:34:14 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

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That looks like denial pimp. You don't believe in the talent. Robert Smith had 4 damn good years for us you might wanna revisit his skills one of our better backs we ever had. Bennett had world class speed but no vision or cuts one good year. Dalvin on his second great year. He special like AP. AP obviously is better but only because he has more body armor and staying power. Dalvin is better all around. He will be good until around 28. So he can't touch AP. Mattison is not as talented period. Bennett never got TDs neither he had no power. Cook stronger then he looks too you tripping. What I just said is facts check the stats somebody see if this post is lies or facts. Dalvin already ahead of Bennett as all time Viking greats. Smith was good for 4 yrs at least check the stats.

Lol u misunderstood me. I only brought up Smith (I know how great he was) and Bennet for comparison in only one area --- injury proneness........ in that one area, Cook compares to them two on some level.....

I agree but Bennett was not as good. Smith came on strong last 4yrs. I would love to see Cook finish like that. We need Cook at least until we get a QB who can carry the team like QBs suppose too.

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Nov 1, 2020 21:34:14 GMT -6 giveu1guess said:

Nov 1, 2020 21:25:30 GMT -6 @jefferson18 said:

That looks like denial pimp. You don't believe in the talent. Robert Smith had 4 damn good years for us you might wanna revisit his skills one of our better backs we ever had. Bennett had world class speed but no vision or cuts one good year. Dalvin on his second great year. He special like AP. AP obviously is better but only because he has more body armor and staying power. Dalvin is better all around. He will be good until around 28. So he can't touch AP. Mattison is not as talented period. Bennett never got TDs neither he had no power. Cook stronger then he looks too you tripping. What I just said is facts check the stats somebody see if this post is lies or facts. Dalvin already ahead of Bennett as all time Viking greats. Smith was good for 4 yrs at least check the stats.

Lol u misunderstood me. I only brought up Smith (I know how great he was) and Bennet for comparison in only one area --- injury proneness........ in that one area, Cook compares to them two on some level.....

You know how we do it. Nothing but love we know how to debate with each other. We both know and love our boys in the end lol it's fun being back talking football with you buddy

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Nov 1, 2020 20:44:31 GMT -6 Nordic said:

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My bad just got my phone fixed. You still have the same number? Is that message number your number? I think I have you number still in my old phone somewhere.

Same number homie!

I just texted you, I found your number. Call me tomorrow or the next time you not busy or text something. Need to speak with you bro. No rush though just when you have time.

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lol hes most likely the best back when healthy..Reality is playing that type of football that we did yesterday isn't sustainable over time and vs a good defense. If you can run the ball like that you would never lose. Not a knock on Cook id take him over anyone. I want to see a Super Bowl not a meaningless Packer win when we are 1-5. Hopefully the front office sees fools gold doesnt get tricked like last year after the Saints playoff win.

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Nov 2, 2020 8:14:45 GMT -6 andhesloose28 said:

meaningless Packer win when we are 1-5

2-5....do ya think the team feels like that Packer win was meaningless? Hmmmm, probably not. Last week I felt like we were in for a few losses after our bye. The homer in me even mentioned a 3 game losing streak against all three of our NFC North rivals. 1-8 was a possibility. Hey, I want the highest 1st round pick for Ricky to select a QB in April like the next guy, but the games still have to be played and we might win some more unlikely ones like we just witnessed yesterday in the 9 remaining.

FTR...I didn't think the win over the Packers was meaningless. In fact it was pretty cool and I just read SUPER WONNUM got another sack.

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69.75%

From the very first offensive drive, everyone could tell that the offense would be leaning heavily on Cook. He ended the game with 30 rushes for 163 yards, and 2 receptions for 63 yards — totaling 226 yards from scrimmage on the afternoon. He would churn ahead and turn what looked to be runs of three or four yards into 6- or 7-yard gains.

Even more impressive and noteworthy was the fact that 111 of the 226 yards came after contact. He accounted for 69.75% of the Vikings 324 yards, and he finished as both the leading rusher and receiver.

When looking at the Vikings offensive performance from the embarrassing loss to the Atlanta Falcons two weeks ago, you can tell just how integral Cook is to the offense — and how different it looks when he isn’t playing.

Conventional wisdom in the NFL tells you to not break the bank for a running back, but Cook is validating the Vikings decision to sign him to his massive extension this offseason.

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