Post by Funkytown on Oct 3, 2020 11:48:45 GMT -6
Oh boy! Just a couple of winless teams trying to compete to save jobs at this point. I'll let you decide whose job needs saving and who is going to do the saving. Vikings fans, you know what I mean. Anyway, we know how we're feeling about Sunday, but what are the Texans fans saying? Let's find out...
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What They're Saying...
Chin Hole? OMG.
Thoughts on their thoughts?!
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What They're Saying...
If this game happens, Dalvin Cook is gonna eat this defenses lunch. I think this game, even more than the first 2 could get ugly quick.
Their OL is pretty good and we have no pass rush as it is, and we all know we can't stop the run and Cook is one of the more explosive backs in the league. Cousins is hot or cold, but there's no reason to think our DBs are gonna stop him and Thiellen/Jefferson/Rudolph.
Their D isn't special, but does have some playmakers on it. And if this team has lost its heart, which may be the case, it could get bad.
Their OL is pretty good and we have no pass rush as it is, and we all know we can't stop the run and Cook is one of the more explosive backs in the league. Cousins is hot or cold, but there's no reason to think our DBs are gonna stop him and Thiellen/Jefferson/Rudolph.
Their D isn't special, but does have some playmakers on it. And if this team has lost its heart, which may be the case, it could get bad.
Kubes won't wait till the second half to see if we can defend the run.
Vikes 23
Texans 16
Vikes 23
Texans 16
Its all coming together.
If we had kept Capers:
We would be at this point.
If we had kept Kubiak:
We would be at this point.
Would we have been better keeping Kubiak instead of OB:
We will have the answer with the outcome of this game.
The "stars are aligned" its all coming to an end, the prophecy is to be fulfilled and the football curse shall end.... when all the Texans HCs are under one roof, in the same game....................now, we just need DW to realize.............
................... there is no spoon.
If we had kept Capers:
We would be at this point.
If we had kept Kubiak:
We would be at this point.
Would we have been better keeping Kubiak instead of OB:
We will have the answer with the outcome of this game.
The "stars are aligned" its all coming to an end, the prophecy is to be fulfilled and the football curse shall end.... when all the Texans HCs are under one roof, in the same game....................now, we just need DW to realize.............
................... there is no spoon.
Will October be the month they turn it around?
The game against the Vikings will be the 100th regular season game with O'Brien as HC.
Overall Record 52-47 .525
Monthly
September--10-14 .417
October------14-11 .560
November---13-8 .619
December---14-13 .519
January-------1-1 .500
Overall Record 52-47 .525
Monthly
September--10-14 .417
October------14-11 .560
November---13-8 .619
December---14-13 .519
January-------1-1 .500
Cook scares me...but i think the key to this game will be how we defend the short passing game. Will we be sitting way back in off coverage trying not to get beat deep like we were against the Chiefs, Ravens and Steelers? Or will we start run blitzing and attacking Cousins and dare him to beat us deep? I like the latter. Cousins has been known to throw a few picks, its time we got on the TO board.
Could this be the modern day Toilet Bowl game................where the best of the 2 floats to the top to live another day?
PJ Hall Article shared:
Once discarded by the Las Vegas Raiders, defensive tackle P.J. Hall has emerged as a starter for the Texans.
Hall has started two of the past three games and has recorded 11 tackles with one for a loss.
Hall played 73 percent of the snaps against the Baltimore Ravens and 56 percent of the snaps against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
“I think he’s done a good job," Texans defensive end J.J. Watt said. "I think he’s got very strong hands. I think he’s got good power. I think he has some good juice to him. I enjoy seeing him out there playing and I’m looking forward to continuing to see him improve and get better.”
In his first game with the Texans afer getting into better shape, Hall played 25 percent of the snaps against the Kansas City Chiefs and had four tackles with one for a loss.
The highest drafted player in school history, Hall is 6-1, 310 pounds and has run the 40-yard dash in 4.68 seconds. Hall had 42 sacks in college with four interceptions, nine forced fumbles and 14 blocked kicks.
“P.J. Hall has a very unique skill set," Texans defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver said. "You talk about a guy who weighs 310 pounds, when he got timed for his 40 coming out it was 4.73 or 4.68 or something like that.
"I don’t know a lot of those humans roaming the earth. He’s such a unique guy in his ability and as his technique continues to grow and his confidence grows, we see there’s a lot of upside there with him.”
Once discarded by the Las Vegas Raiders, defensive tackle P.J. Hall has emerged as a starter for the Texans.
Hall has started two of the past three games and has recorded 11 tackles with one for a loss.
Hall played 73 percent of the snaps against the Baltimore Ravens and 56 percent of the snaps against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
“I think he’s done a good job," Texans defensive end J.J. Watt said. "I think he’s got very strong hands. I think he’s got good power. I think he has some good juice to him. I enjoy seeing him out there playing and I’m looking forward to continuing to see him improve and get better.”
In his first game with the Texans afer getting into better shape, Hall played 25 percent of the snaps against the Kansas City Chiefs and had four tackles with one for a loss.
The highest drafted player in school history, Hall is 6-1, 310 pounds and has run the 40-yard dash in 4.68 seconds. Hall had 42 sacks in college with four interceptions, nine forced fumbles and 14 blocked kicks.
“P.J. Hall has a very unique skill set," Texans defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver said. "You talk about a guy who weighs 310 pounds, when he got timed for his 40 coming out it was 4.73 or 4.68 or something like that.
"I don’t know a lot of those humans roaming the earth. He’s such a unique guy in his ability and as his technique continues to grow and his confidence grows, we see there’s a lot of upside there with him.”
With the way our defense is playing, 0-4 is around the corner.
I watched much of the Broncos Jets game & surprisingly found it very entertaining.
I only hope Vikings Texans is as entertaining.
I only hope Vikings Texans is as entertaining.
I’m excited for Sunday, but only because 0-4 has the potential of accelerating Chin Hole’s pink slip delivery. We suck!
I predict the Texans will win this game convincingly. They will look brilliant on offense and play solidly on defense on special teams. There will be much rejoicing. Then next Sunday they’ll lay an egg on our face.
Vikings 24 Texans 7. Bill tells everyone at the presser they have to play better, then gets a contract extension.
I think the Texans bounce back, 24-17
A Kubiak revenge game against a team that can't stop the run.
I feel this team will go off.
Texans 38
Vikings 17
Texans 38
Vikings 17
If Minnesota scored 30 on Tennessee, how many will they score on Texans?
Looking forward to 0-4. Need to go winless to get rid of BoB it seems.
I think we eek out a really boring win and Cal assumes everything is back on track and abandons any tiny inclination he may have had to make any changes this year.
Im locked and loaded for the game... I got Justin Jefferson and Irv Smith off the waiver wire... Let's get this W!... for my fantasy football team!
Texans look awesome on the opening drive-
Settle for a FG-
Bob goes conservative up 3 and tries to run the clock out.
Texans lose 3- 27
Fall to 0-4
Settle for a FG-
Bob goes conservative up 3 and tries to run the clock out.
Texans lose 3- 27
Fall to 0-4
Both teams suck. I think the Texans "should" win, but you can't count out Bob's dumbassery.
The opposing teams are just going to start baiting the Texans to run the ball even more on first and second downs by presenting them defensive looks that appear to have large running lanes. In establishing the run by forcing the run, Deshaun is taken out of the equation, quick 3 and out so that the opposing offense can go on 8 minute drives. Sounds like a plan.
This game will make the Passion of the Christ look tame.
i share an equal opinion just with less agony and death! LOL
I think Kubiak is going to want to come in here and turn back the clock for a game. I think he's going to use every play that worked in Houston and will make a point to remind us all that if we could have waited another few years.... who knows! (especially after the guy has a dang stroke for the team on the sideline!)
MIN - 37
HOU - 27
I think Kubiak is going to want to come in here and turn back the clock for a game. I think he's going to use every play that worked in Houston and will make a point to remind us all that if we could have waited another few years.... who knows! (especially after the guy has a dang stroke for the team on the sideline!)
MIN - 37
HOU - 27
When in doubt, look to the quarterbacks. Deshaun Watson > Kirk Cousins.
As bad as the Texans looked against the Chiefs and Ravens, as impotent as they were in the second half against the Steelers, there’s plenty of time left for the Texans to make a run. Many of the players and coaches on the current roster did just that in 2018 after starting 0-3. It can be done. It will be done.
After all, the Texans wouldn’t want to make my preseason prediction of a 1-3 start look foolish followed by a division title look foolish, right? RIGHT?
As bad as the Texans looked against the Chiefs and Ravens, as impotent as they were in the second half against the Steelers, there’s plenty of time left for the Texans to make a run. Many of the players and coaches on the current roster did just that in 2018 after starting 0-3. It can be done. It will be done.
After all, the Texans wouldn’t want to make my preseason prediction of a 1-3 start look foolish followed by a division title look foolish, right? RIGHT?
Until the Texans stop the run, I won’t believe they can. Until the Texans pass block, I won’t believe they can. Until the Texans stop tipping plays or giving tendencies that allow defensive coordinators to fire blitzing DBs straight at the hole where the RB ends up running, I won’t believe they can. Until the Texans work more blitz-beating hot routes into their game plan and take advantage of the abilities and athleticism Deshaun Watson has, I won’t believe they can.
The Texans are a bad football team. They’re bad. What do they do well? Cover kicks and punts? Their pass defense stats are decent, but that’s a product of their inability to stop the run. Bill O’Brien lost me when he traded Jadeveon Clowney, and every game that passes is another game closer to his firing - whether it’s this season, next, or ten seasons from now.
The Texans are a bad football team. They’re bad. What do they do well? Cover kicks and punts? Their pass defense stats are decent, but that’s a product of their inability to stop the run. Bill O’Brien lost me when he traded Jadeveon Clowney, and every game that passes is another game closer to his firing - whether it’s this season, next, or ten seasons from now.
The Texans have the better quarterback this game, and that should be the difference. If they don’t win down the sidelines with Brandin Cooks and Will Fuller against Holton Hill and the gang and get the ground game going on Sunday against the Vikings, move the team to Memphis and start over again in 2030.
Do I think the Texans WILL lose on Sunday? No, not really. Do I want them to lose on Sunday? Oh, hell to the yeah. The quicker B3B gets fired, the sooner I am optimistic for this franchise.
That said, it’s still a tough match-up. Kirk Cousins hasn’t been nearly as good as I thought he’d be in Minnesota, but he’s got some great skill position talent around him. I could easily see the score I proffered up above as the end result, especially with all of the speed on the Vikings’ offensive side of the ball.
On paper via Football Outsiders, these teams are fairly evenly matched. By defense DVOA, HOU is ranked 26th while MIN is ranked 19th. Offensively by DVOA, HOU is pathetically ranked 21st while MIN is 23rd.
Sunday’s match-up will be a battle of mediocrity. Hooray.
That said, it’s still a tough match-up. Kirk Cousins hasn’t been nearly as good as I thought he’d be in Minnesota, but he’s got some great skill position talent around him. I could easily see the score I proffered up above as the end result, especially with all of the speed on the Vikings’ offensive side of the ball.
On paper via Football Outsiders, these teams are fairly evenly matched. By defense DVOA, HOU is ranked 26th while MIN is ranked 19th. Offensively by DVOA, HOU is pathetically ranked 21st while MIN is 23rd.
Sunday’s match-up will be a battle of mediocrity. Hooray.
Do not adjust your computer screens. No, it is not a typo. I am actually calling for this game to end in a tie. Why? Both teams are in somewhat similar situations. Both saw themselves as contenders in their respective conferences, but both also saw controversial offseason moves involving the trade of their top wide receiver. Both teams have gotten off to horrible starts. Both have faced teams that have a combined record of 8-1. Both teams have significant defensive issues, giving up yards and points at will. Both have offensive issues. Both teams look at this game as a must-win. A lot of similarities.
The last time the Texans faced 0-3, Game 4 was against Indianapolis. It went to overtime after the Texans blew a three-score lead. The game was near the final minutes, and had then-rookie head coach Frank Reich decided not to gamble, opting to play it safe in his own territory, the Texans might have gotten their first tie. Instead, the Colts failed, and the Texans gained enough yards to allow the game-winning field goal. Granted, past performance does not guarantee future success, but sometimes history rhymes just enough. Between BO’B and Zimmer, two coaches not very well liked by their respective fanbases, I could see either in the situation Reich faced (4th down in their own territory with OT winding down), just trying to avoid the loss as opposed to playing for the win.
The Texans have never beaten the Vikings, but the Texans have probably played the better quality opponents to begin the 2020 season. Both will go all out to avoid 0-4, and I think both teams manage to avoid that mark. These teams and head coaches continue to tick off their respective fanbases by tying.
Now, the success rate of teams 0-3-1 making the NFL Playoffs? A team did make the playoffs with a 1-3-1 record (1981 NY Jets), but they won Game 4. Assuming this all goes according to projection (and COVID-19 doesn’t ultimately shut down this game), both teams will have the chance to take up that challenge.
The last time the Texans faced 0-3, Game 4 was against Indianapolis. It went to overtime after the Texans blew a three-score lead. The game was near the final minutes, and had then-rookie head coach Frank Reich decided not to gamble, opting to play it safe in his own territory, the Texans might have gotten their first tie. Instead, the Colts failed, and the Texans gained enough yards to allow the game-winning field goal. Granted, past performance does not guarantee future success, but sometimes history rhymes just enough. Between BO’B and Zimmer, two coaches not very well liked by their respective fanbases, I could see either in the situation Reich faced (4th down in their own territory with OT winding down), just trying to avoid the loss as opposed to playing for the win.
The Texans have never beaten the Vikings, but the Texans have probably played the better quality opponents to begin the 2020 season. Both will go all out to avoid 0-4, and I think both teams manage to avoid that mark. These teams and head coaches continue to tick off their respective fanbases by tying.
Now, the success rate of teams 0-3-1 making the NFL Playoffs? A team did make the playoffs with a 1-3-1 record (1981 NY Jets), but they won Game 4. Assuming this all goes according to projection (and COVID-19 doesn’t ultimately shut down this game), both teams will have the chance to take up that challenge.
Both the Texans and Vikings share the total inability to stop the opponent’s passing game, but they make up for it with very bad run defense. Combine that with Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Brandin Cooks, Adam Thielen, David Johnson, and Dalvin Cook, and Houston will finally play in a game that isn’t totally lopsided.
But Mike Zimmer makes better coaching decisions in his sleep than Bill O’Brien does when the game is on the line, so expect Houston to have the commanding lead late in the game only to lose it in the closing minutes due to terrible play calling, an ill-fated challenge, and yet another 4th and 1 play call we all regret.
0-4, here we come.
But Mike Zimmer makes better coaching decisions in his sleep than Bill O’Brien does when the game is on the line, so expect Houston to have the commanding lead late in the game only to lose it in the closing minutes due to terrible play calling, an ill-fated challenge, and yet another 4th and 1 play call we all regret.
0-4, here we come.
Okay, so last week’s game against the Steelers sort of broke my optimism for the season. I was certain the Texans were gonna win that game and prove to everyone they’re legit, or that they could win a football game, and they did that...for two quarters. Everything I hoped and dreamed for this offense revealed itself in the first half, immediately dashed away in the second half. I don’t think it was some defensive genius by Mike Tomlin or the Steelers balling out in the second half; I think the Texans lost it themselves. They had the recipe for success and completely ditched it in favor of losing. I don’t even know what to think anymore. I know O’Brien has a history of bad coaching decisions, but man, that Steelers game was up there.
I think that terrible coaching will continue on Sunday. My optimism has been deflated exponentially since last week. The Texans will by all means look like the better team, play better, and deserve to win. But we will still offer the Vikings plentiful chances to take the lead with more and more conservative playcalling, allowing them to turn this game into a mess. The Vikings have been just as bad and directionless as us, with a quarterback that, unlike ours, cannot bail them out. Kirk Cousins is gonna miss a few open throws or throw an interception or two that’ll finally force Bill O’Brien to swallow a win for the first time since January. The Vikings’ rush defense is also bad, so David Johnson should reach that coveted three yards per carry average.
This is an example of two teams that had their shot last year, blew it, and are now falling apart due to talent loss and coaching ineptitude. The Texans win this round exclusively because of more established talent and Deshaun Watson, but last week taught me that O’Brien and Tim Kelly won’t hesitate to rip the ball out of his hands. If that happens again, and we lose because of that again, I give up. Miami will get another top 10 pick and Houston will enter truly murky waters with no clear way out.
I think that terrible coaching will continue on Sunday. My optimism has been deflated exponentially since last week. The Texans will by all means look like the better team, play better, and deserve to win. But we will still offer the Vikings plentiful chances to take the lead with more and more conservative playcalling, allowing them to turn this game into a mess. The Vikings have been just as bad and directionless as us, with a quarterback that, unlike ours, cannot bail them out. Kirk Cousins is gonna miss a few open throws or throw an interception or two that’ll finally force Bill O’Brien to swallow a win for the first time since January. The Vikings’ rush defense is also bad, so David Johnson should reach that coveted three yards per carry average.
This is an example of two teams that had their shot last year, blew it, and are now falling apart due to talent loss and coaching ineptitude. The Texans win this round exclusively because of more established talent and Deshaun Watson, but last week taught me that O’Brien and Tim Kelly won’t hesitate to rip the ball out of his hands. If that happens again, and we lose because of that again, I give up. Miami will get another top 10 pick and Houston will enter truly murky waters with no clear way out.
This is going to be a long game. The Minnesota Vikings are proud owners of a top 10 rushing offense, while the Texans’ offense is currently MIA. Not to mention that the Texans are currently the worst run defense in the entire league.
We’re going to get outside zoned to death and I couldn’t be happier about it. Our only hope is that the offense starts clicking, but I have no faith in that happening. We’re going to struggle, sputter, and eventually keel over as the defense is grounded into a pulp.
I love Gary Kubiak and would welcome him into my home. Looking at this game through nostalgia goggles, I can’t help but pull for him. Taking them off and putting my homer shades on, all I can see is red over how this team has been managed. I want this team to get better, and that won’t happen till BOB is gone. Go Texans.
We’re going to get outside zoned to death and I couldn’t be happier about it. Our only hope is that the offense starts clicking, but I have no faith in that happening. We’re going to struggle, sputter, and eventually keel over as the defense is grounded into a pulp.
I love Gary Kubiak and would welcome him into my home. Looking at this game through nostalgia goggles, I can’t help but pull for him. Taking them off and putting my homer shades on, all I can see is red over how this team has been managed. I want this team to get better, and that won’t happen till BOB is gone. Go Texans.
If I check my script, now is about the time the offense will look competent. They won’t put up a 50 burger; that will come against the Jags or Titans in a week or two, but they will actually eat some clock and allow an over-performing defense a bit of a reward. I think classic to Kubiak offenses, the Vikings will do the same and two fairly competent offenses (this week, anyways) will keep this a low-scoring game with a few long drives burning the time off the clock. Overall, in crunch time, I think Deshaun will force his team over the finish line and not fall to 0-4.
Time to not just talk about it and be about it.
I see this sh*t happen every year and I’m at the point that I’d almost rather us lose out to see some real change for the future. BOB’s slow starts are always argued against his final records, which are undeniably ok, sometimes even good. But then he burns out in the playoffs and outsmarts himself. We have the talent, I would like to see it come together for us to burn the league up.
Thoughts on their thoughts?!