Post by Purple Pain on May 31, 2020 18:35:55 GMT -6
10 big questions for the Vikings in 2020: Will the offensive line get better?
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theathletic.com/1844385/2020/05/29/10-big-questions-for-the-vikings-in-2020-offensive-line-cleveland-bradbury-reiff-oneill-samia/
Chad: Who would’ve thought the question of who plays left guard would be so intriguing? So before we wrap up, Arif, let’s get your thoughts on two subjects — how Reiff or Cleveland would perform at guard, and your prediction for who the five starting linemen are Week 1.
I think the Vikings could have a dilemma with the former question that goes something like this: Reiff is probably the better tackle if only looking at the 2020 season. However, Reiff is potentially in his final year with the Vikings and Cleveland is the team’s long-term tackle opposite O’Neill. So does it make sense to have Cleveland work at his natural position even if he’s not as good in 2020 as Reiff would be? Or, the Vikings could try Cleveland at guard as a rookie, allow him to grow accustomed to the speed of the game, then move him back to tackle next season.
If you’re in charge, Arif, which decision would you make and how would your offensive line shake out?
Arif: Adjusting to the NFL is difficult enough and if you don’t have to learn a new position as you adjust, all the better. It’s common to argue that a player should develop at guard, then kick out at tackle, but I’m not sure that acclimates any player particularly well. The difference between the best and worst guards is smaller than at tackle, but the style of play at guard can be demanding for someone who is used to the relative patience one gets to deploy at tackle — defenders get in their face a lot quicker. Defensive ends may be faster than defensive tackles, but defensive tackles get to start much closer to the point of attack.
While there are a number of college tackle-to-guard converts who play well right away, Cleveland doesn’t fit that profile — scouts say his middling core strength, tall pass sets and thin frame paint a picture of a player who would get bullied on the inside. At the same time, they would be hiding his strengths — a rare true-pass set pedigree in college with an incredible amount of responsibility isolating one-on-one against edge rushers with patient hands and great movement skills. It seems like just the opposite of what you’d want to do. Reiff’s mix of strengths and weaknesses make for a reasonable transition, particularly his more consistent leverage and capability to win in short sets. I don’t think the move will be clean — he has off-balance power and punch-timing issues — but his awareness and phone-booth quickness will serve him reasonably well there.
In the end, I’d project a fairly rough year for Cleveland at guard and a reasonable one for Reiff at tackle. That doesn’t sew it up — I don’t expect Cleveland to be all-world at tackle right away — but I think it makes the question of who to play where a little easier.
With that in mind, I think the starting five would be Cleveland at left tackle, Reiff at left guard, Bradbury at center, Samia at right guard and O’Neill at right tackle. Samia’s choice here is a bit optimistic, but it generally implies some pretty good things as they wouldn’t play him unless he was at least better than the other options.
I think the Vikings could have a dilemma with the former question that goes something like this: Reiff is probably the better tackle if only looking at the 2020 season. However, Reiff is potentially in his final year with the Vikings and Cleveland is the team’s long-term tackle opposite O’Neill. So does it make sense to have Cleveland work at his natural position even if he’s not as good in 2020 as Reiff would be? Or, the Vikings could try Cleveland at guard as a rookie, allow him to grow accustomed to the speed of the game, then move him back to tackle next season.
If you’re in charge, Arif, which decision would you make and how would your offensive line shake out?
Arif: Adjusting to the NFL is difficult enough and if you don’t have to learn a new position as you adjust, all the better. It’s common to argue that a player should develop at guard, then kick out at tackle, but I’m not sure that acclimates any player particularly well. The difference between the best and worst guards is smaller than at tackle, but the style of play at guard can be demanding for someone who is used to the relative patience one gets to deploy at tackle — defenders get in their face a lot quicker. Defensive ends may be faster than defensive tackles, but defensive tackles get to start much closer to the point of attack.
While there are a number of college tackle-to-guard converts who play well right away, Cleveland doesn’t fit that profile — scouts say his middling core strength, tall pass sets and thin frame paint a picture of a player who would get bullied on the inside. At the same time, they would be hiding his strengths — a rare true-pass set pedigree in college with an incredible amount of responsibility isolating one-on-one against edge rushers with patient hands and great movement skills. It seems like just the opposite of what you’d want to do. Reiff’s mix of strengths and weaknesses make for a reasonable transition, particularly his more consistent leverage and capability to win in short sets. I don’t think the move will be clean — he has off-balance power and punch-timing issues — but his awareness and phone-booth quickness will serve him reasonably well there.
In the end, I’d project a fairly rough year for Cleveland at guard and a reasonable one for Reiff at tackle. That doesn’t sew it up — I don’t expect Cleveland to be all-world at tackle right away — but I think it makes the question of who to play where a little easier.
With that in mind, I think the starting five would be Cleveland at left tackle, Reiff at left guard, Bradbury at center, Samia at right guard and O’Neill at right tackle. Samia’s choice here is a bit optimistic, but it generally implies some pretty good things as they wouldn’t play him unless he was at least better than the other options.
Link:
theathletic.com/1844385/2020/05/29/10-big-questions-for-the-vikings-in-2020-offensive-line-cleveland-bradbury-reiff-oneill-samia/