why AP and the Vikings should part ways

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 13, 2014 8:11:12 GMT -6

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sports.yahoo.com/news/adrian-peterson--vikings-need-to-go-in-separation-directions-021233822.html

Peterson and the Vikings would be best served to move on again – specifically, in opposite directions. And it should be mutual. The Vikings should be ready to let go, and Peterson should be ready to leave.

Sure, Peterson will go back to Minnesota. He can go back. He can work there again. But he can't ever truly be the Adrian Peterson that had anchored the franchise. On all fronts, it's a practical impossibility. There are too many legal cuts. Too many media bruises. Too many lingering questions about whether the fan base will ever look at him the same. And even on the football front, too much expectation and too little time for him to be the championship foundation in that franchise.

Factor in what has taken place over the past two months. Do the football math. Look at the state of the franchise. The realistic conclusion is that we've reached a natural breaking point. This is the moment when Peterson can and should be traded – maybe the last moment when everyone can walk away with something.

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I think that last sentence is thought-provoking. I think he means that we can still walk away with something because AP still has some gas left in his elite tank. But I also worry that if another "surprise" skeleton comes out of his closet he will lose much of his trade value

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 13, 2014 11:05:35 GMT -6 Reignman likes this

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Post by James on Nov 13, 2014 11:05:35 GMT -6

Whoever wrote that article is an idiot. Then again it's a yahoo article. Anybody with a high school diploma or GED could probably get hired there. Charles Robinson, what credibility does he have when it comes to writing about football. Look at his other articles, "How obsessive is Peyton Manning? Even Broncos' keep-away celebration of record-breaking TD was scripted." Really?

And no he's not an idiot for thinking Vikings should ditch AD but the reasons given are just head scratching.

1. Peterson is a proven player who makes the team better. Let's not confuse him with Ray Rice who the Ravens were much better without anyway. He creates one on one opportunities for our WR. The Vikings have done a decent job w/o but let's face it, this offense will continue to struggle without him. AD is a one of a kind back. There probably won't be another back like him. Especially one that can come back from an ACL injury and come back to have a MVP season. AD has bailed this team out on numerous occasions. It'll be much easier for our rookie QB if we have AD to lighten the load.

2. Peterson is too valuable of an asset to let go. Let's face it. He's one of the main attractions on this team. He's one of the main reason people come out to watch the Vikings. He's the only star player on the team. He probably has the most jersey sales out of everybody on the roster. This guy will still bring in money. To think otherwise is foolish.

3. Peterson has served his day in court. Many fans from all over, are content with his case. Even from the anti-Peterson crowds the most I've heard from them was wanting him to get the 6 game suspension. No one ever said he needs to get kicked off the team. There are just those of us who wants to see him play now, and those who wants to see him suffer some kind of fine or suspension. Either way, to cut a player who has been a major asset to this organization is just not the right move. Not yet anyways. He can still contribute on the team. There are players that have done worse than Peterson and yet they're still playing. If anything needs to part ways it's Peterson case and people's thoughts about it. Time to move on and if the NFL decided to let him play then that's that. No need to drag the story on.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 9:08:31 GMT -6

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Post by Funkytown on Nov 14, 2014 9:08:31 GMT -6

Factor in what has taken place over the past two months. Do the football math. Look at the state of the franchise. The realistic conclusion is that we've reached a natural breaking point. This is the moment when Peterson can and should be traded – maybe the last moment when everyone can walk away with something.

Interesting, indeed. But...traded? That's about the last scenario I can picture playing out.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 9:22:10 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 9:08:31 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Factor in what has taken place over the past two months. Do the football math. Look at the state of the franchise. The realistic conclusion is that we've reached a natural breaking point. This is the moment when Peterson can and should be traded – maybe the last moment when everyone can walk away with something.

Interesting, indeed. But...traded? That's about the last scenario I can picture playing out.

The Vikings should keep him or trade him. Why release an asset worth value? Peterson is no Percy Harvin in the locker room.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 9:28:46 GMT -6

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Post by Funkytown on Nov 14, 2014 9:28:46 GMT -6

2. Peterson is too valuable of an asset to let go. Let's face it. He's one of the main attractions on this team. He's one of the main reason people come out to watch the Vikings.

I don't know about all this. I know he was* all of these things, but I'm not so sure anymore.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 9:30:58 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 9:22:10 GMT -6 Minniman said:

Nov 14, 2014 9:08:31 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Interesting, indeed. But...traded? That's about the last scenario I can picture playing out.

The Vikings should keep him or trade him. Why release an asset worth value? Peterson is no Percy Harvin in the locker room.

And what team is going to take on that contract and baggage this late in the season...?

Some team will be willing to take on his baggage, but probably not that contract.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 10:00:55 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 9:32:57 GMT -6 Frosted said:

Plus, the trade deadline has passed, so that option is out for the rest of the season.

This is true, and if he's still a Viking going into next season, I believe that is where he will stay.

That's kind of my point. He'll either remain a Viking or we'll release him. Trading doesn't even make sense. It never really did.

I won't be shocked with either outcome, but I think I'll be MORE shocked if they finally decide to release him after all of this. I've always said, if releasing Peterson was their plan, they should have done that back in September and been done with it.

I'm just ready for this to be over! *govikes*

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 14:06:35 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 9:28:46 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

2. Peterson is too valuable of an asset to let go. Let's face it. He's one of the main attractions on this team. He's one of the main reason people come out to watch the Vikings.

I don't know about all this. I know he was* all of these things, but I'm not so sure anymore.

Who else on the Vikings could cause this much media attention. Peterson is the only reason the Vikings are even in the headlines right now and he's not even playing football. lol He is still the face of this franchise, this is still his team. He's probably the most respectable player we have to other NFL fans around the world because of his talent. No other Vikings player could attract this much TV attention, not even Kluwe vs Prefier and the Vikings fiasco.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 18:00:42 GMT -6

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Post by PurpleKoolaid on Nov 14, 2014 18:00:42 GMT -6

Bad attention doesn't equal attention. It subtracts from the team. Like the Love Boat ordeal. Sooner he is off this team the better. But I doubt they get anything if they try and trade him next year. His face isnt the future of the Vikings. This season is pretty much over (in a large part thanks to AD).

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 19:09:00 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 9:30:58 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Nov 14, 2014 9:22:10 GMT -6 Minniman said:

The Vikings should keep him or trade him. Why release an asset worth value? Peterson is no Percy Harvin in the locker room.

And what team is going to take on that contract and baggage this late in the season...?

Some team will be willing to take on his baggage, but probably not that contract.

I did not mean trade Peterson during this season.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 19:57:45 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 14:06:35 GMT -6 James said:

Nov 14, 2014 9:28:46 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

I don't know about all this. I know he was* all of these things, but I'm not so sure anymore.

Who else on the Vikings could cause this much media attention. Peterson is the only reason the Vikings are even in the headlines right now and he's not even playing football. lol He is still the face of this franchise, this is still his team. He's probably the most respectable player we have to other NFL fans around the world because of his talent. No other Vikings player could attract this much TV attention, not even Kluwe vs Prefier and the Vikings fiasco.

You make it seem like this media attention is a positive thing. It's not. Not even close.

I don't deny his talent or what he has meant for this team, but let's not twist this. It's been really, really negative for the Vikings and their fans. That's not something to boast about.

There has been a lot of speculation about unloading Peterson before all of this nonsense. Of course it's more tempting now than ever. It's business. Has Peterson been good for business this season? Absolutely not. I think by next season, most people will be moved past this stuff, so if he's still a Viking, I think that's where he stays. But...is he worth it? With our young team and the way McKinnon is playing...? I don't think so. I never liked his contract before this, and I certainly don't like it now. There are so many more factors that go into this besides, "He's the face of the franchise." That's exactly what is saving him, but it is also what is so embarrassing.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 14, 2014 21:27:01 GMT -6

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Nov 14, 2014 19:57:45 GMT -6 Funkytown said:

Nov 14, 2014 14:06:35 GMT -6 James said:

Who else on the Vikings could cause this much media attention. Peterson is the only reason the Vikings are even in the headlines right now and he's not even playing football. lol He is still the face of this franchise, this is still his team. He's probably the most respectable player we have to other NFL fans around the world because of his talent. No other Vikings player could attract this much TV attention, not even Kluwe vs Prefier and the Vikings fiasco.

You make it seem like this media attention is a positive thing. It's not. Not even close.

I don't deny his talent or what he has meant for this team, but let's not twist this. It's been really, really negative for the Vikings and their fans. That's not something to boast about.

There has been a lot of speculation about unloading Peterson before all of this nonsense. Of course it's more tempting now than ever. It's business. Has Peterson been good for business this season? Absolutely not. I think by next season, most people will be moved past this stuff, so if he's still a Viking, I think that's where he stays. But...is he worth it? With our young team and the way McKinnon is playing...? I don't think so. I never liked his contract before this, and I certainly don't like it now. There are so many more factors that go into this besides, "He's the face of the franchise." That's exactly what is saving him, but it is also what is so embarrassing.

No disrespect towards McKinnon but I don't think he's the definite answer yet. He has had it fair share of good games this year, but Peterson is the game changer. I don't see loaded boxes creating one on one opportunities for our WR. When Peterson is in he's the #1 person teams are trying to gameplan against.

As for everything else, I don't see how he or the team will get negative attention if reinstated. The courtroom did their job, and Peterson is accepting his punishment. If the Vikings get rid of Peterson it would be only because of $$$ not for the cause preventing child abuse. As much as Peterson has done for this team, you would think the team would support him and help him during this process, not release him. Same with the NFL. I hardly believe suspending him is in the name of "fight against child abuse." This is just Goodell trying to show his authority and make up for mishandling the Ray Rice situation. I understand this is a business and there will be negative feedback no matter what the decision may be. But when AD is still arguably one of the best contributors on the team, why not keep him? This is his only mistake that we know of. As many times as we heard of players getting charged for assault and domestic violence in the NFL yet they still play. What AD did doesn't warrant him getting kicked off the team in my opinion.

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why AP and the Vikings should part ways Nov 15, 2014 18:57:00 GMT -6

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Post by TNVikesfan on Nov 15, 2014 18:57:00 GMT -6

Aside from this season's legal troubles - both with the child abuse AND the positive test for pot - AP has had a year off of play. He's at the 30 mark, and that is when RBs typically start losing steam. I'm not saying AP will, but this does need to be a factor if we keep him. During this season, he has been a detriment to the team. It would be different if he injured out and 'next man up' happened. Where is he physically? What is his condition? Has he been keeping himself in football ready shape? Does he have any lingering injury issues, and has a year off been good or bad for him? Where is he mentally?

Yes, in the past he has been the backbone and face of the Vikings. But that doesn't mean he will be able to continue in that role after having a year off. In this business, it would be the height of stupidity to let nostalgia color anything about where to go from here. It is a cutthroat business and teams are designed to win, not pet aging or misbehaving players. That generally leads to failure in any business.

I personally think his time in MN is done. Too many emotional buttons have been pushed for him to be as publicly accepted as he was. If the fan base is against him, it will show in the stands. That can have a big impact on how a team plays and should be taken into consideration.

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