Post by HarryHits22 on Sept 1, 2019 13:55:29 GMT -6
And this is why Forums are dying. Sigh. Point missed entirely.
I am not COMPARING him to Kurt Warner. I am saying their situations are similar. There is no way a coach like Zimmer would have had Warner on the roster the year he took the league by Storm, let alone had the testicular fortitude to start him when Trent Greene went down. He’d have had some run of the mill QB that was pedestrian but didn’t keep him up at night because he was predictable. Nobody traded for or claimed Warner either after GB cut him. How many other teams besides the Rams would have even had him in camp?
Shoot, for that matter look back no further than the most success this team has had in recent memory with Case, a guy who never even makes the team under this regime without injuries/no choice.
You think the 32 best QB’s on the planet all are staring in the NFL? You suffer from confirmation bias. Brett Hull said it best when playing for the Blues, how happy he was that he got opportunities because there were probably a hundred guys working in their garage that never had the same chances.
Risk aversion is what most of the NFL is about, and why a guy like Belichek (with a QB nobody wanted) so consistently wins. A second rounder not working out? Gone. Move on. Franchise QB outplayed by the scrawny 7th rounder? Gone.
All that to say, I have no idea if Sloter would be any good starting or as the number two. I do know he looked a hell of a lot better than Mannion, but not giving him one opportunity to showcase that both kept the coaching staff from looking foolish and also tanked any trade value he might have had if he had lit it up. Do you not see this?
I saw the Same thing in Denver under Dan Reeves when he wanted Steve Pellure to be the backup to Elway. I think it was Shawn Moore who lit it up in the preseason and the fans went nuts for Moore. Reeves had to keep him and cut Pellure. Coaches hate that type of scenario, and avoid it by doing what Zim did, never falling into the trap of being proven wrong.
Ummm ok “I’m not COMPARING him to Kurt Warner, I’m just.... comparing him to Kurt Warner”.
I understood your point just fine, thank you very much. You seem be caught up in your own confirmation bias despite the evidence smacking you square in the nose. I get the feeling you’ve watched a few too many Hollywood underdog stories.
Do I think the best 32 QBs in the world are starting in the NFL? Probably not, no. But they are almost certainly currently on NFL rosters, and I don’t really care to debate about the imaginary 30 year old in his garage who just never got a fair shot. This is hypothetical hollywood none sense that is impossible to prove one way or another. Kurt Warner was the exception, not the rule. Using him or Tom Brady as your examples really points out what I’m getting at. You’re clinging to a pipe dream.
I don’t even see it worth my time to argue with you over what kind of coach Zimmer is, or what kind of player he is willing and unwilling to give a shot. I mean first round pick Laquon Treadwell currently does not have a job while late round pick Stefon Diggs and undrafted free agent Adam Thielen are starting. Cordarelle Patterson was also given little playing time, despite his draft status. The Vikings currently employ numerous successful late round to undrafted players. If you think Zimmer is unwilling to break the status quo, how have we gotten to where we are now?
Kyle Sloter had 2 years on this roster to prove himself. You saw a small tidbit of that, his play primarily against players who currently do not have jobs in the league. Kyle Sloter is not the first and won’t be the last player to flash in the preseason despite lacking the skill to be an NFL QB. Hell, guys like Trevor Siemian flashed enough to earn a starting job as an undrafted rookie and even flashed a bit in a starting position. We got a first hand look at how that turned out last year.
You seem to think that Sloter’s performance proves he’s worthy of a backup spot in the league, and you are willing to go as far as blame Zimmer for him not getting that opportunity somewhere else? Take a second to think about that, and evaluate who’s really got the confirmation bias.
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... and neither is this Chris guy.