Michigan State coaches and the Nassar coverup Mar 26, 2018 9:16:02 GMT -6 via mobile
Post by beckmt on Mar 26, 2018 9:16:02 GMT -6
I require the same thing I do for all suspected crime. Evidence. The burden of proof lies on the accuser. I'm sorry that's inconvenient for feminists and their delicate sensibilities, but it's the best system we have, and we're not going to make exceptions for certain crimes. People are innocent until proven guilty, PERIOD. It's not even debatable.
Then you investigate him and give him a fair trial too. If he's guilty of something then you set an example for the next guy. That's all you can do.
Sure why not? Is the shoutbox some sort of holy ground or something lol? And it's weird how you always wait until you read something you disagree with before you determine something not worthy of the precious shoutbox xD. Becks feminist propaganda sat there a whole 2 days before I took the bait.
Really? You can't see the difference between someone you know and a complete stranger? Well let me flip that around on you to help you understand. Are you still going to be a "listen and believe" advocate if it's one of your brothers who's accused of rape? Are you just going to believe the girl you don't know over your brother? Well hey, believe it or not, all those monsters out there who are accused of rape have families who care about them too.
But it's also not the simple either. No I'm not necessarily just going to believe a female acquaintance. If she has a questionable reputation, or a history of accusing men of rape, I might be a little more skeptical. I don't think I know any girls like that however, so it's not something I need to worry about personally, but that's another thing to consider.
Where did I call all women liars? Talk about a straw man lol. Me saying we shouldn't just listen and automatically believe isn't the same as calling all women liars. I don't know the accuser or the accused, so I'm going to wait until I have more information before I make up my own mind about what may or may not have happened. Contrary to feminist propaganda, false rape accusations are high enough to warrant some skepticism. And false accusations would absolutely sky rocket if we suddenly adopted a "listen and believe" attitude and put the burden of proof on the accused. Do you not see that?
It's not necessarily about lying either. Women have regrets and make stupid decisions when they drink. They even forget the details of what or how things exactly happened. Emotions can get in the way too. Is it fair for a woman to consent to sex, regret it, and decide to file rape or sexual assault charges later? Because that happens an awful lot too. Or maybe she thought the relationship was a bit more serious and found out the guy only wanted a one night stand or something. Women can be vindictive too you know. Don't blame me for not buying into the propaganda, blame the fact that women are in fact very human.
And I certainly don't buy into this BS that an intoxicated woman can't give consent. f*ck that noise. If that's the case, then we as a society need to make a decision. Are women grown a$$ adults responsible enough to make their own decisions or are they still children? If women are incapable of making responsible decisions when they're drunk that could lead to the incarceration of another human being, then women shouldn't be allowed to drink until we determine an age where they can demonstrate that kind of responsibility. So which is it ladies, do you want to be treated like grown a$$ adults or coddled like children?
LOL, no! Not "Reignman's standards". It's standards that our society has agreed upon. Innocent until proven guilty. It sucks, I get it, but sorry, not all women are as honest as they are in your fantasy world. Unfortunately we have despicable humans so this is the best system we got, and we're not going to make an exception for rape victims, even if only 1% turn out to be false because here's the thing all of you "listen and believe" advocates don't seem to realize. If we make an exception for rape victims and put the burden of proof on the accused, do you really think the false rape stat is going to stay the same or do you think maybe that's going to increase a bit? Especially in today's anti-male, down with the patriarchy environment? Guys who wink at the wrong girl will be accused of rape.
So then what would be the punishment for a false accusation in your listen listen and believe world anyway? Nothing? Is there a plan for that? We don't have a punishment for it now. Yeah that system would work out real well for men wouldn't it?
And if you think it's difficult to prove that a guy raped a girl, how much more difficult do you think it's going to be for a guy to prove he didn't rape a girl? Even if a guy makes a girl cleanup, she still has access to the crime scene. She is the crime scene. If a guy is accused of rape and the burden of proof is on him, is the girl going to make the crime scene available for an investigation? Or how is he supposed to prove he didn't rape her? We're really just supposed to lockup any guy that's accused of sexual assault lol? Really? Orwellian.
Where do we start. Do you realize the power men have in these situations?? People can weigh in, one slip and you're off the traveling squad, two and you are out of the front line program. That is pressure on young athletes, since it is the parents putting up the time and money early. Most of the time it is go along get along, or you will be eased out of the front line program.
I went with a person for 5 years and married another, both had come from abusive marriages. Stranger rape is a very small number of actual rapes, most are date, party and family rapes. These are hard to report, and the party and date rapes are hard to covict.
With you standards Reignman why bother to report, it will be dismissed.